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    Ok I sent the verification documents then got a email a few hours later

    saying that to process your cashout blah blah you will need to send certain documents blah blah -the headache begins

    Ok, Im thinking not a problem I will just resend them however this part is new:

    4. The signed Deposit Authorization document below.

    __________________________________________________ _______

    Deposit Authorization Document

    Report Number: 515047 Report Date: 12/9/2011 11:15:59 AM

    Please sign next to each listed deposit below:

    Date Trans. No. Credit Card Currency Amount Casino
    12/8/2011 2:24 PM 11018799 ######## AUD 20.00 Cinema

    This document serves to confirm that I, ____________________________________, the undersigned cardholder, did authorize DataCash (Pty) Ltd / Crazy Commerce / Borth Holdings, to charge my credit card account for the transactions listed above. Further, I confirm that I have received all services due to me in terms of the charges listed.


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    I mean whats up with that? I dont get it..

    They want access to my credit card and they want me to sign 'said access ' to my credit card? Is that what it means? Oh and another part:

    *We always try refunding to the method of purchase first, wherever possible, with the restrictions imposed by credit card companies we can no longer refund to credit cards or US$ debit cards.

    Wow! All I have is a visa/debit card - I dont have any other type of web wallet so where does that leave me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Realitybitez View Post
    They want access to my credit card and they want me to sign 'said access ' to my credit card? Is that what it means? Oh and another part:

    *We always try refunding to the method of purchase first, wherever possible, with the restrictions imposed by credit card companies we can no longer refund to credit cards or US$ debit cards.

    Wow! All I have is a visa/debit card - I dont have any other type of web wallet so where does that leave me?
    probably a check or wire transfer would be your alt. option....but be prepared for a hefty transaction fee.

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    Ok, I've read too many horror stories on here

    about players problems with cash outs, so yes Im totally paranoid I keep thinking its too good to be true and something is bound to stuff it up

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    This is a deposit declaration form, rather than signing away "access to your card". It is a standard form, but not one used for every verification. It seems a little overboard for a mere $20. I have only had these when my total card deposits reach a certain level, usually in the thousands.

    It is also a way to get a copy of your signature, which they can then compare with the other documents you have sent in. This might be why they are asking for it over a trifling $20 deposit.

    Operators also believe signing this form prevents the player from making a chargeback. It would, if casinos actually stepped forward when asked by card companies to defend the claim, but because of what the transaction is for, most don't respond, so a chargeback goes through on the word of the customer alone. In effect, it's a bluff, designed to discourage players from trying to scam them because they believe this form will be used against them, and they will end up in a heap of trouble. There is never any guarantee that an operator will NOT use this to defend a chargeback, so it can be an effective weapon. A UK operator WILL use such a form, because here "remote gambling" has been formally legalised, and gambling debts have been made enforcable in law.

    To deal with this particular form:-

    1) Print it off
    2) Sign by hand
    3) Scan the signed form
    4) Send back as JPEG to casino.
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    Thanks vinylweatherman.

    Its good to know that its a standard thing and not a 'con' thing which I was beginning to think. It might of been a $20 deposit but I won just over a grand which is probably why they're pulling out all the stops.

    But ya made me feel better that its a perfectly legit thing that they are doing

    Thank you


    Quote Originally Posted by vinylweatherman View Post
    This is a deposit declaration form, rather than signing away "access to your card". It is a standard form, but not one used for every verification. It seems a little overboard for a mere $20. I have only had these when my total card deposits reach a certain level, usually in the thousands.

    It is also a way to get a copy of your signature, which they can then compare with the other documents you have sent in. This might be why they are asking for it over a trifling $20 deposit.

    Operators also believe signing this form prevents the player from making a chargeback. It would, if casinos actually stepped forward when asked by card companies to defend the claim, but because of what the transaction is for, most don't respond, so a chargeback goes through on the word of the customer alone. In effect, it's a bluff, designed to discourage players from trying to scam them because they believe this form will be used against them, and they will end up in a heap of trouble. There is never any guarantee that an operator will NOT use this to defend a chargeback, so it can be an effective weapon. A UK operator WILL use such a form, because here "remote gambling" has been formally legalised, and gambling debts have been made enforcable in law.

    To deal with this particular form:-

    1) Print it off
    2) Sign by hand
    3) Scan the signed form
    4) Send back as JPEG to casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Realitybitez View Post
    Its good to know that its a standard thing and not a 'con' thing which I was beginning to think. It might of been a $20 deposit but I won just over a grand which is probably why they're pulling out all the stops.

    But ya made me feel better that its a perfectly legit thing that they are doing

    Thank you
    Hey Mate

    Good to see you have made a deposit outside NZ currency at an accrediated casino! You will have no issues with a Vegas Partner Lounge Casino going back to your Debit Card - I played with Aspinals (Same Group) for a long time and had no issues at all. In regards to the form - again standard. You'll have the cash on your card by the end of the week at the latest.

    WTG on the winnings! What did you hit?
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    It was some mad hour in the morning I was pratically sleeping on the pc but I was set on cracking that bonus I have 'No' idea what I hit, I was playing incredibly stupid, you know when your'll half asleep and play any old thing.... I think I was doing $10 a spin at one time :P

    Took me nearly 2 weeks to get my money but I got it eventually

    I have decided I totally love these bonus thingy s, now I have worked them out. In the last 3 weeks I've cleared just over 2k from 2 casinos ( my latest and most favorite casinos of the moment ) and only made deposits worth around $50

    Of course in the last few days, I sunk most of it right back in

    But sheesh did I have a ball


    Quote Originally Posted by ShayDrew View Post
    Hey Mate

    Good to see you have made a deposit outside NZ currency at an accrediated casino! You will have no issues with a Vegas Partner Lounge Casino going back to your Debit Card - I played with Aspinals (Same Group) for a long time and had no issues at all. In regards to the form - again standard. You'll have the cash on your card by the end of the week at the latest.

    WTG on the winnings! What did you hit?

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