Casinodeal.com requesting players data from casino.

[lazouche]

You have clearly not listened to anyone regarding aggression and rudeness. I don't appreciate being told what I have or haven't read or having ALL THE IMPORTANT things typed in CAPS in case I CAN'T READ or am STUPID or INTELLECTUALLY IMPAIRED.

Whether or not you have or don't have the information already, the only thing the casino should be releasing is the account number and deposit amounts for tracking purposes. If you want the casino to release it, you need to ask the customer to give the casino permission to do so personally.

Maybe there was something lost in translation etc, but your belligerent attitude and disrespect gives a good indication of what kind of affiliate you are IMO.

LOL I guess it all depends on how you take it right? Maybe you had a bad day. If you have interpreted it like that and decided that it insults your intelligence, by all means do not put it on me.

Thanks for your guidance on what we "need" to do. We will keep those decisions to ourselves.

Ask around about what kind of affiliates we are, I am sure you will only hear great buzz.

[rainmaker]

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Just for the record, here is CasinoDeal`s T&C (1-10):



You MUST have an active CasinoDeal membership to be eligible for the program

Program is valid only for casinos represented on our website

Program is ONLY VALID for any casino accounts you registered through CasinoDeal. (Otherwise, you will not be tagged as a CasinoDeal member and therefore we will not be able to track your deposits.)

Points are added to your membership account only once the deposit has been verified with the casino operator

You must submit all your deposits made with the casinos directly on your member account with CasinoDeal using the "Submit New Deposit Entry" link. All deposits not submitted to us will not be counted towards your points

Points for community forum posts are added only once your forum post has been approved

Spam on the forums will not be tolerated and your membership suspended immediately.

Only relevant, unique and high-value posts to the community members will be counted for rewards.

Points are updated on your account 5 times a week.

It takes 2-4 weeks for your reward to be shipped to you once redeemed.

[lazouche]

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Just for the record, here is CasinoDeal`s T&C (1-10):



You MUST have an active CasinoDeal membership to be eligible for the program

Program is valid only for casinos represented on our website

Program is ONLY VALID for any casino accounts you registered through CasinoDeal. (Otherwise, you will not be tagged as a CasinoDeal member and therefore we will not be able to track your deposits.)

Points are added to your membership account only once the deposit has been verified with the casino operator

You must submit all your deposits made with the casinos directly on your member account with CasinoDeal using the "Submit New Deposit Entry" link. All deposits not submitted to us will not be counted towards your points

Points for community forum posts are added only once your forum post has been approved

Spam on the forums will not be tolerated and your membership suspended immediately.

Only relevant, unique and high-value posts to the community members will be counted for rewards.

Points are updated on your account 5 times a week.

It takes 2-4 weeks for your reward to be shipped to you once redeemed.

Thanks rainmaker once again. Really appreciate your input and support in this issue lasting for no reason.

[rainmaker]

Thanks rainmaker once again. Really appreciate your input and support in this issue lasting for no reason.

I don`t know about support, but as I said, I think you have a point here

I have never heard of your site and I do not know whether it is a reputable site or not. And I certainly do not agree with how you replied in this thread by almost making fun of SlotMonster`s understanding of English. But you apologized for that, so no need to bring that up again.

But yes, I may think it was a bit unnecessary by SlotMonster to post this in several forums as an I-gaming representative. I think one should be very careful as an I-gaming rep to post these things. On the other hand, his post was only a method to seek clarification and advise. So I see it as fair enough.

I think that some people here may have misunderstood. CasinoDeal is to my knowledge not an "ordinary" affiliate site where "unknown guests" are using links to sign up at casinos. As mentioned, they have already signed up at CasinoDeal with their personal information.

If "unknown guests" are visiting your site without signing up at CasinoDeal, but still are using your aff links, you will in these cases of course not ask the casino for any personal information right ?

[lazouche]

I don`t know about support, but as I said, I think you have a point here

I have never heard of your site and I do not know whether it is a reputable site or not. And I certainly do not agree with how you replied in this thread by almost making fun of SlotMonster`s understanding of English. But you apologized for that, so no need to bring that up again.

But yes, I may think it was a bit unnecessary by SlotMonster to post this in several forums as an I-gaming representative. I think one should be very careful as an I-gaming rep to post these things. On the other hand, his post was only a method to seek clarification and advise. So I see it as fair enough.

I think that some people here may have misunderstood. CasinoDeal is to my knowledge not an "ordinary" affiliate site where "unknown guests" are using links to sign up at casinos. As mentioned, they have already signed up at CasinoDeal with their personal information.

If "unknown guests" are visiting your site without signing up at CasinoDeal, but still are using your aff links, you will in these cases of course not ask the casino for any personal information right ?

That is exactly right. Take a look at the casinos we represent on our website .... We are obviously not asking them to provide that data.

[rainmaker]

That is exactly right. Take a look at the casinos we represent on our website .... We are obviously not asking them to provide that data.

Thanks for the reply.

(as a summary) I think this is what created the confusion. Some will use your aff links as unregistered guests (and you will in these cases not ask the casino for any personal information), while others will first sign up at your site with their personal information and be a part of your reward program (and you will in these cases ask the casino to confirm information you already have gotten from the customer).

This case is probably only a misunderstanding, and I am sure that you and SlotMonster will find a solution

[Nifty29]

Thanks for the reply.

(as a summary) I think this is what created the confusion. Some will use your aff links as unregistered guests (and you will in these cases not ask the casino for any personal information), while others will first sign up at your site with their personal information and be a part of your reward program (and you will in these cases ask the casino to confirm information you already have gotten from the customer).

This case is probably only a misunderstanding, and I am sure that you and SlotMonster will find a solution

It still doesn't excuse the rudeness and contempt with which he has treated other members.

"LOL" at someone's post/opinion is just plain rude.

In addition, there's the spam.

Bryan already pointed out his bad behavior to him and IMO its not improved since.

[lazouche]

It still doesn't excuse the rudeness and contempt with which he has treated other members.

"LOL" at someone's post/opinion is just plain rude.

In addition, there's the spam.

Bryan already pointed out his bad behavior to him and IMO its not improved since.

Once again, it is all a matter of perception. Just leave at that. Seems like anything or everything will disturb you in the way of writing posts.

For the spam, there is absolutely no proof it is us or anyone under our control. After repeating many times on this forum that we do not conduct those kind of activities, you fail to acknowledge it, talk about rudeness. So your continued accusations will just be disregarded at this point.

Bad behavior Bryan pointed out was taken care of several posts ahead on several occasions.

[rainmaker]

It still doesn't excuse the rudeness and contempt with which he has treated other members.

"LOL" at someone's post/opinion is just plain rude.

In addition, there's the spam.

Bryan already pointed out his bad behavior to him and IMO its not improved since.

Yes, I was mostly commenting about the main issue (whether they ask for personal information or not). As for his forum behavior (lazouche), I stated quite clearly that I did not agree with how he responded to SlotMonster in this thread. SlotMonster is a reputable and respected member, who is very well-liked by all of us.

I am sure that Casinomeister will do whatever he thinks is necessary in this thread (when he wakes up ).

On the other side, I think we also should remember that CasinoDeal was "attacked" in 3 reputable forums at the same time. I am not using this as an excuse for lazouche`s behavior, but it probably contributed to some frustration IF the threads were based on incorrect information. But as I also said, I have no opinion whether CasinoDeal is a good/bad site, I am only trying to look at this in an objective way simply because I have never heard of CasinoDeal before.

[P.V.]

Oh, now I understand the concept of this site. They want to confirm what their members enter as deposits, for points against the casino records and so they can confirm. Makes sense.

Since this site has the players name during registration for their rewards program, a simple solution is for the casino to itemize their linked affiliate report by name. BUT -

A problem occurs when someone that doesn't sign up for their rewards program, simply clicks their affiliate link and signs up at the casino. These players don't want their information shared.

It's possible Viktar was reading into this and found it odd which I would too. IMO - that's where the confusion is..

A possible solution would be making the site members only, where everyone has to register and agree to the terms and then the casino can provide the names and amounts of the depositing player without recourse because they agreed when registering on the site.

It's not good business for any OC to share information if the player simply clicks an affiliate link and simply signs up with an OC via the link.

Somehow the two need a differentiation. JMO.