It sad you have to come to a forum or contact the webmaster to get paid

[bethug]

It sad you have to come to a forum or contact the webmaster to get paid.
How many players that dont visit the boards are not getting paid.

I listen to casinomeister webcast and i like his points on webmaster promoting slow paying casinos. Which have me to beleive alot of people just give up and dont try to collect after a while.

How can u trust some webmaster and they promote any casinos and they use the excuse cause they always pay in the end. You cant. There way to many good casinos out there to promote bad ones. IF you see a portal promoting bad casinos, email them ask them why?

[Casinomeister]

Just so you know where Bethug is coming from:

This is from Friday's webcast:
http://www.casinomeister.com/radio_show.html

Me: We all know that Grand Banks, Black Widow, and Sterlinghouse casinos either delay payments or withhold payments. Honestly, I feel it’s a cash flow problem, or a rob Peter to pay Paul situation. But regardless, any portal operator with any scruples would not be promoting this group of casinos. Unfortunately, these two webmasters who run these portals are some of the most outspoken dweebs on the message boards. And they use other portal message boards to further their own misguided cause. They don’t give a flying rats ass about the player, they don’t give a flying rats ass about the industry.

Vortran: They have no criteria or selectivity on who to promote. They sell their integrity for financial gain. They are deceptive. They are not nice people.
*****end of transcript

The warning was for CPA's site and Cyndi Carley's gleeful banner farm. These two webmasters habitually promote crap casinos, and they don't give a damn about the player until the player has a problem. It's kind of like putting the cart before the horse.

Hey, how about NOT promoting problematic casinos. What a concept!

[mrracetrack]

Interesting that you picked "those two" portals to criticize...

Are they the "only" two that has Grand Banks & Black Widow listed??

Lets see.... You did a wonderful interview with the new GM of WINNERonline... so I went to the WOL "CASINO LIST"... and what do I find on there??

Black Widow Casino Playtech Yes
BlackDog Casino Diamond Games Optional
Blackjack Castle iCrystal Yes
Blackjack.com OddsOn Yes

GoTo Casino Unified Gaming No
Grand Aces Aqua Online Yes
Grand Banks Casino Playtech Yes

Hummmmmmm...... "Selective reporting"??

[jpm]

Yikes! I hope that the 'yes' after the casinos' names mean that 'yes, this place sucks. stay away!'

[dickens1298]

WOL is merely listing those casinos...not offering any recommendations at all. And if you think it's implied, then I say caveat emptor. I have not seen the aforementioned casinos advertised on WOL.

And - by the way - the "YES" and "optional" fields relate to whether a download is required or not.

Interesting that you picked "those two" portals to criticize...

Are they the "only" two that has Grand Banks & Black Widow listed??

Lets see.... You did a wonderful interview with the new GM of WINNERonline... so I went to the WOL "CASINO LIST"... and what do I find on there??

Black Widow Casino Playtech Yes
BlackDog Casino Diamond Games Optional
Blackjack Castle iCrystal Yes
Blackjack.com OddsOn Yes

GoTo Casino Unified Gaming No
Grand Aces Aqua Online Yes
Grand Banks Casino Playtech Yes

Hummmmmmm...... "Selective reporting"??

[the_cpa]

Those that have taken the time to get to know me, know that the picture you are trying to paint is patently false, and grossly inappropriate.

Perhaps those like yourself that don't, should.
What a concept that be!

[mrracetrack]

WOL is merely listing those casinos...

Sorry Dickens... I disagree...

WOL posts a direct link with an affiliate code...

http://www.winneronline.com/code/casinos/link.php?1298

THAT is NOT "merely listing those casinos"...

That is EXACTLY what Bryan seems so pissed about that those "other two" portals did.

He needs to include WOL also, if he feels this way...

[dickens1298]

Yes...mea culpa. You're right.

Sorry Dickens... I disagree...

WOL posts a direct link with an affiliate code...

http://www.winneronline.com/code/casinos/link.php?1298

THAT is NOT "merely listing those casinos"...

That is EXACTLY what Bryan seems so pissed about that those "other two" portals did.

He needs to include WOL also, if he feels this way...

[bethug]

Track you have a great point, i never pay attention to wol listed casinos, they once had crystal palace listed. But wol is a big company, not like one or two man shops.

Cpa i have a question( not trying to attack you cpa) but dont you think something is wrong when a player have to contact a webmaster time after time to get paid from some of these casinos. You know grand banks and a few others jerk people around. There to many good casinos you can push.

Also i read a great post that cindy posted about if u win 10000 , why cant u get paid 10000 and not in small sums. But still she promotes slow paying casinos. Cindy and you cpa have some pull , why dont u get all them webmaster and ask them to stop promoting slow paying casinos. You will make more money in the long run.

[Casinomeister]

Jeeze! I get the Carely gang in here

And it was Vortran who pointed the finger - not me.

Are they the "only" two that has Grand Banks & Black Widow listed??

No, but they are not merely "listed" at CPA and VPJ - they are advertised with bonus offerings and banners. If these two webmasters choose to advertise casinos that admittingly deceive players, then they should be accountable for their deception. They clearly advertise for this group of casinos.

And don't come prancing in here like there is nothing wrong with that by trying to be coy and pointing at WOL's casino "listings". This is like comparing apples and oranges. WOL (which is a company, not an affiliate) has every casino listed under the sun (almost), but the ones that sponsor the site are listed separatly.

You don't see banners for BW and GB at WOL, but at CPA's and Carely's sites you do. So what's up with that? No scruples, that's what.

Those that have taken the time to get to know me, know that the picture you are trying to paint is patently false, and grossly inappropriate

Oh barf. I'm not painting any picture, you are doing it yourself dude with your careless promotion. Just go away and don't bother me with your crap. And what's with the title CPA? Are you an accountant? Or does this stand for "Casino Players Advocate". If I were you, I'd change my handle to something more appropriate like Carely's hande at "This sucks"