rtg and max payout cap

[pinkfloyd]

seen a few good screenies lately from rtg ,tho even tho they are nice wins both players should have got way more due to max payout cap.

i think in both of them 12500 should have been 30000 and 1000 should have been 4000

i dont have a rtg installed but im trying to work out

is it possible to hit a rtg advertised payout for 5 wilds or top prize during a feature ?
or is it just blatant false advertising ?

if it is the latter , why would you want to play at a casino where you know if you hit big you cant actually hit whats advertised , especially during a feature ?

i mean if a site advertised "one million dollar jackpot " and had maxpayout as 10000 coins we would be up in arms with pitchforks and torches , yet time and time again we see people not get paid whats advertised on rtg and are happy that their win was "good enough anyway"

thats my 2 cents **


** terms and conditions max payout of 2 cents capped at 1 cent between the hours of 12:01 and 11:59

[Zoozie]

There is a whole thread in which the subject you bring up has been discussed seriously in several threads. Check

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-max-wins.html

and
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...urs-bodog.html

The short version is that for "Rain Dance" it really does make sense to have this cap, or the slot would never be able to offer 100 freespins (5 scatters) with retriggers (only 3 scatters) for another 100 freespins. It would simply have payout over 100% because of the massive wins from 5 scatters with the current paytable.
For "Count Spectacular" it also seems a to be a fair rule or 5*wild payout must
be reduced drastically. But for most other RTG slots I do not see the reason for the maximum payout!

I found it very interesting that the maximum pay is calculated from LINE BET for each line. Which means that play 1line at 1c for a total of 1c you will have the same
maximum win as playing 20 lines at 1c for a total of 20c. When I play Rain Dance I
always only play 5 lines... Still havent hit the 5 scatters though.

[pinkfloyd]

hi yer i know its been discussed a bit , i guess those last 2 big hits and especially the 5 scattered stacked crown screenshot got me irked up a bit.

i guess im wondering why people still bother playing these sites when the advertised paytable is null and void. i guess i should have made the heading why do people still play rtg with a cap .


could u imagine walking into casino , putting $1 on no 21 on roulette , it comes up and the cashier hands over $20 and says sorry sir/madame we have a max cap of 20 lol

[Nate]

This is exactly what I do not get:

You are allowed to play at the Maximum and Lose. You are not allowed to Win the Maximum.

You are allowed to deposit as much as you like. You are not allowed to cash out as much as you like...

Remains true for RTG...

Nate

[asghan]

This whole max cap rule makes that I avoid playing Lucky Tiger. With 88 lines there is only 568 max per bet, that really sucks for high variance slot like Lucky Tiger. How this rule affects Lucky Tiger RTP?

[loren]

There is a whole thread in which the subject you bring up has been discussed seriously in several threads. Check

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-max-wins.html

and
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...urs-bodog.html

The short version is that for "Rain Dance" it really does make sense to have this cap, or the slot would never be able to offer 100 freespins (5 scatters) with retriggers (only 3 scatters) for another 100 freespins. It would simply have payout over 100% because of the massive wins from 5 scatters with the current paytable.
For "Count Spectacular" it also seems a to be a fair rule or 5*wild payout must
be reduced drastically. But for most other RTG slots I do not see the reason for the maximum payout!

I found it very interesting that the maximum pay is calculated from LINE BET for each line. Which means that play 1line at 1c for a total of 1c you will have the same
maximum win as playing 20 lines at 1c for a total of 20c. When I play Rain Dance I
always only play 5 lines... Still havent hit the 5 scatters though.

thanks for the post

[Stovetopp]

Zooie I dont know what massive payout in Raindance you are speaking of.

Couple weeks ago I got the 5 scatters for 100 freespins. Well after a long day I had 1100 free spins I had to call and ask what to do since I had to run out with about 700 spins to go. But at the end of the day, after at least 1100 free spins and playing 80 cents per spin all I won was about 1200 bucks That sucks.

Couple years ago I did get 5 scatter but that was within a 3catter free spin. I did not get 100 free spin and brought it up here and Doggiboy was kind enough to explain the rules to me

[Nifty29]

The effect of max cap is less than 1% of total RTP on most games.

It supports two points of view:

1. Why have the cap if the effect is so small?

2. Why should players complain when the effect is so small?

Both are valid based on the information above.

[kidice]

yeppers, those were my crowns, pinkfloyd. reducing ones bet amount doesn't help increase payback percentage- it's 50,000x line bet maximum; however, reducing the number of lines bet does enable a player to realize the max return without sacrificing payback percentage (In my case 5 lines). The part that really steams me is the fact i lost my remaining feature spins, and I still had most to play, when the rule states 50,000 x bet per spin. Apparently, 10 free feature spins means only 1 spin with nine payable breaks in between.

As for why I play RTG slots? well, in my opinion RTG software is the most entertaining available. another reason- I'm from USA. Every slot has a unique personality and provides chance for handsome returns on any spin. The big payouts seem to be quite random and I've hit big on back to back spins often enough to support that. I've had long azz dry spells too, but after a big hit, I don't feel compelled to quit playing the slot. Other software seems to go consistently dry after hitting big.

That covers the software side of RTG. Conversely, I'm ready to give up on RTG permanently due to their (mis)management policies, such as continuing to allow rogue operators to fleece unsuspecting players. By not taking action against these casinos, they become part of it. It stands to follow that through patronage, I contribute to the problem as well.

* unique experience. your experience may be different. casino playing involves risk of loss. Kidice LLC makes no claims and any return on investment is neither expressed nor implied. Not FDIC insured. Always seek the advice of a professional before investing.

[De Beuker]

The effect of max cap is less than 1% of total RTP on most games.

It supports two points of view:

1. Why have the cap if the effect is so small?

2. Why should players complain when the effect is so small?

Both are valid based on the information above.

The effect on the total RTP of the game may be small, but it is that part of the RTP that you can actually cashout.
By far the biggest part of a games RTP is in the lower wins, the small ones that just keep you going but wont get you anywhere.
And when you finally hit that monstah, you only get paid a part of what it should pay..

So the effect may be small for the the games total payout, but an individual player will still feel kinda screwed..