Question about consistent winners and how online casinos tolerate them

[ivf]

So about consistent winners: you guys probably know some of them, and some of u probably are them

How online casinos tolerate consistent winners? Do they ban them? how do they avoid being banned? For sure casinos are not happy with them, are they? How much can u win to avoid getting banned? is there a certain percentage u should stop at? or certain amount?

thank u

 

[KasinoKing]

My psychic powers tell me you think you can consistently beat casinos using Roulette...
Well, I'm sorry, but you can't.
You probably wont believe me right now, but you will find out in the end. I hope the lesson is not too expensive.

The only way to consistently beat casinos is if you use +EV bonuses, but even then you can't keep on beating the same casino because they will bonus-ban you in the end.

Even if you do win a lot and get banned from one casino - there are 100's more waiting to take your business, so you really needn't worry about that. As long as you stick to reputable casinos they will pay you first, then ban you.

Welcome to the forum!
KK

 

[ivf]

My psychic powers tell me you think you can consistently beat casinos using Roulette...
Well, I'm sorry, but you can't.
You probably wont believe me right now, but you will find out in the end. I hope the lesson is not too expensive.

The only way to consistently beat casinos is if you use +EV bonuses, but even then you can't keep on beating the same casino because they will bonus-ban you in the end.

Even if you do win a lot and get banned from one casino - there are 100's more waiting to take your business, so you really needn't worry about that. As long as you stick to reputable casinos they will pay you first, then ban you.

Welcome to the forum!
KK

thanx King. i don't want this lesson to be expensive, that's why i am asking about low limits

but anyway i would not like to be banned from any casino

 

[Nifty29]

So about consistent winners: you guys probably know some of them, and some of u probably are them

How online casinos tolerate consistent winners? Do they ban them? how do they avoid being banned? For sure casinos are not happy with them, are they? How much can u win to avoid getting banned? is there a certain percentage u should stop at? or certain amount?

thank u

I know of a site called bleatingbonuses .com or something where most members are self-made millionaires. I'm sure they have plenty of easy ways to win all the time.

Seriously though, if you can win sometimes you're doing well. People who say hey are consistently ahead are consistently full of it.

 

[gid88]

So about consistent winners: you guys probably know some of them, and some of u probably are them

How online casinos tolerate consistent winners? Do they ban them? how do they avoid being banned? For sure casinos are not happy with them, are they? How much can u win to avoid getting banned? is there a certain percentage u should stop at? or certain amount?

thank u

I don't think there exists any consistent winners (depending on how you define consistent), +ve winners, yes, but consistent...not longer than a few days one would think. Either the casino or greed will get you, the latter probably more so.

 

[blerko1]

So about consistent winners: you guys probably know some of them, and some of u probably are them

How online casinos tolerate consistent winners? Do they ban them? how do they avoid being banned? For sure casinos are not happy with them, are they? How much can u win to avoid getting banned? is there a certain percentage u should stop at? or certain amount?

thank u

Before some years i was playing at ......... casino and it was 2 weeks that i only take bonuses and withdraw, take bonuses and withdraw.... almost everyday and one day operator say to me....hey your play time is a bit SMALL so bonuses are more difficult now to be creditet to you ( i was a VIP member ) so consistent winning does not exist.....

 

[Cleveland]

Y'all seriously must be doing something wrong if you can't win all the time. It seems you have to try pretty freaking hard to lose. What games are you playing? Most of the time I play slots or blackjack I have no trouble getting my balance to 0.00 dollars. I've almost perfected zeroing out any account balance. Games are EZZZ!

 

[Chriss]

Well, I think it also depends on how much profit you wanna make, if I can say so.

If you make a deal with yourself to go online once a day and make, for instance, + $1 winnings a day and when you reach that you leave for the day, and you do that for a month or so, then I suppose you can call that consistent income.

But again... that small percent of house advantage will get you some day.. or not... depends on how lucky you are!

 

[SlotMonster]

Consistent winner means consistent depositor

And players who always being paid and without any troubles - imo the best advertisement for casino

 

[chuchu59]

Only short-sighted and underfunded operators will worry about this. As long as the number of consistent winners constitute only a small percentage of overall players it's ok for them as the house edge will even things out.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I know of a site called bleatingbonuses .com or something where most members are self-made millionaires. I'm sure they have plenty of easy ways to win all the time.

Seriously though, if you can win sometimes you're doing well. People who say hey are consistently ahead are consistently full of it.

MOST members are probably self made bullshitters. Players would get bonus banned long before being able to accumulate a million through consistently "abusing bonuses". Casinos also share data on such players (although many will not admit it), and such players cannot simply milk every casino as though they were independent of each other.

It is more likely that the FRAUDSTERS have become "self made millionaires" through dishonesty, rather than consistently beating the bonuses.

Those players who have become millionaires have mostly done so through luck, such as hitting a couple of progressives.

I am bonus banned from a large number of casinos, and in most cases it has been getting ahead by only a few thousand that has lead to it. I would have to beat a very large number of casinos by a few thousand in order for this to add up to a million. The only way to do it would be to play progressives with any winnings that put me ahead, rather than cash them out, and hope that I hit one before getting bonus banned.

If a player did have a way of winning this much consistently, yet not getting noticed and bonus banned, they would keep their mouth firmly shut about it.

 

[plasticnote]

MOST members are probably self made bullshitters. Players would get bonus banned long before being able to accumulate a million through consistently "abusing bonuses". Casinos also share data on such players (although many will not admit it), and such players cannot simply milk every casino as though they were independent of each other.

It is more likely that the FRAUDSTERS have become "self made millionaires" through dishonesty, rather than consistently beating the bonuses.

Those players who have become millionaires have mostly done so through luck, such as hitting a couple of progressives.

I am bonus banned from a large number of casinos, and in most cases it has been getting ahead by only a few thousand that has lead to it. I would have to beat a very large number of casinos by a few thousand in order for this to add up to a million. The only way to do it would be to play progressives with any winnings that put me ahead, rather than cash them out, and hope that I hit one before getting bonus banned.

If a player did have a way of winning this much consistently, yet not getting noticed and bonus banned, they would keep their mouth firmly shut about it.

KK are always winning and not get banned, he must have some secrets.
I just notice one secret from KK, he rarely play RTG, is that true,KK?

 

[KasinoKing]

I just notice one secret from KK, he rarely play RTG, is that true,KK?

Yes, I very rarely play RTG.
That's because I like to only deposit at casinos where I am getting at least a half decent bonus - and there ain't many (if any) RTG's which meet that basic need

So far this year I think the only time I've played RTGs is when I've been "frittering away" the very small affiliate commission payments I've earned at Intertops or the Jackpot Capital group which are paid directly into my player accounts...

KK

 

[vinylweatherman]

KK are always winning and not get banned, he must have some secrets.
I just notice one secret from KK, he rarely play RTG, is that true,KK?

I think KK has suffered a few bonus bans, but he plays low stakes, and uses bankroll discipline, rather than "tricks" such as big bets followed by grinding. This ensures most of his play looks "legitimate", and only casinos that ban merely for being ahead are likely to ban him from bonuses.

I recall KK getting a Rival-wide bonus ban because of their central database, but as one of the few reputable affiliates still prepared to work to separate the jewels from the turds among the Rival casinos, I believe many Rival casinos overruled this at local management level.

I mostly play Microgaming, and have been bonus banned by quite a few groups, but where I am down overall, I have been made up to VIP, which tends to compensate.

If I stop getting the offers, and CS don't say anything, or try to pretend it's down to "spam filters, etc", I do what I have learned to do with small children.

If they behave badly to get attention, ignore it, and usually they will come back and apologise or try to renew the relationship.

I recently had this behaviour from Red Flush. They changed to a new loyalty scheme, sent me the VIP pack through the post saying I was more or less "VIP for life", yet cut me from ALL the weekend and weekly offers at a stroke. I thus ignored this undesirable behaviour, and as July started, I began to get the "we miss you" emails, along with some "exclusive" 20% and 25% offers - pretty much the same as they normally offer.

Too late for the recent tournament though, but with Slot Survivor 5 starting tomorrow, they may well see me return

This means that for the rest of you, don't bother The 65 inch telly is mine, if not the holiday. (Unless the slots decide to be really MEAN to me, and I lose my nerve).

 

[plasticnote]

... I began to get the "we miss you" emails, along with some "exclusive" 20% and 25% offers - pretty much the same as they normally offer.

Too late for the recent tournament though, but with Slot Survivor 5 starting tomorrow, they may well see me return

This means that for the rest of you, don't bother The 65 inch telly is mine, if not the holiday. (Unless the slots decide to be really MEAN to me, and I lose my nerve).

I got those offers too from RedFlush after stop playing some time.

For one, I do not want the 65 inch TV, I do not watch TV at all.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I got those offers too from RedFlush after stop playing some time.

For one, I do not want the 65 inch TV, I do not watch TV at all.

I am not interested in the holiday as I am on my own. I ended up giving the last one away to my niece for a honeymoon, and she doesn't deserve another. I can actually USE a telly, and bring the 37 inch one upstairs.

Although Red Flush allow the top prize to be taken as cash instead, it is at a rate of 70% of the value of the prize, so for a $10K holiday, it would only be $7K in cash.

I DID once take top prize in one of these, but it was a straight $8K cash, which I simply withdrew

 

[plasticnote]

I am not interested in the holiday as I am on my own. I ended up giving the last one away to my niece for a honeymoon, and she doesn't deserve another. I can actually USE a telly, and bring the 37 inch one upstairs.

Although Red Flush allow the top prize to be taken as cash instead, it is at a rate of 70% of the value of the prize, so for a $10K holiday, it would only be $7K in cash.

I DID once take top prize in one of these, but it was a straight $8K cash, which I simply withdrew

I am pretty sure you will do well this time, too. Having seeing you in the lead board few times. By the way, does a repsin also count to the wager? If so you may give a try this time at redflush, has done very well on those slots with respin, .

 

[Bencuri]

I think if you are lowroller, and you somehow manage to win every time, that is also possible, only the chance is low, you won't be banned, at least not from the good big brands, like Bet365, Grosvenor etc. In case you are doing this lucky march on high limits, then you can easily be banned. Even in case when it is pure luck that helps you, and not any strategy, there is a solution for casinos to ban you: the title: 'professional player'. They will say you fit that cathegory, and because of this say farewell to you. 'Our site is for recreational purposes', they will say. This phenomenon is mentioned at some places, or similar thing, so I guess they would get rid of you this way, when everything fails against you.

 

[ShayDrew]

I think if you are lowroller, and you somehow manage to win every time, that is also possible, only the chance is low, you won't be banned, at least not from the good big brands, like Bet365, Grosvenor etc. In case you are doing this lucky march on high limits, then you can easily be banned. Even in case when it is pure luck that helps you, and not any strategy, there is a solution for casinos to ban you: the title: 'professional player'. They will say you fit that cathegory, and because of this say farewell to you. 'Our site is for recreational purposes', they will say. This phenomenon is mentioned at some places, or similar thing, so I guess they would get rid of you this way, when everything fails against you.

Not so! I got bonus banned at GoWild after 4 deposits, lowrolling (Max $2 spins) and got $about $1k up!

 

[GamblersDen]

Smaller operations tend to ban players more freely than the larger ones - if a small depositor consistently "abuses" (read: takes advantage of) their deposit bonuses and not only wins but wins and withdraws, then there is a good chance that they will be bonus banned, or even banned altogether.

Larger operations have a better financial backing and realize that having big winners can be great publicity - places like CM where people can post their winning screenshots only entices more players to try them out, but unfortunately a lot of casinos are very shortsighted and will probably remain that way...

Bottom line: if you take advantage of deposit bonuses and withdraw your winnings, be aware of the ban