AWP/Fruities

**H1_Roller** · 27th June 2011, 06:50 PM

I didn't want to continue derailing that other thread, so I'm starting a new one for a little discussion about AWPs (or Fruities) at online casinos.

Whilst I now know what they are (and I have a sense of how they work), I still have a question about them:

Take "Jamaican a Fortune!" on MG casinos for example. If I go and play this, and just keep hammering away at it, will there come a time that it is 'forced' (as KK or VWM put it?) to pay out big to me (even if it meant I'm still losing after the big winner), or because other people are playing at the same time, is all this money going into one single machine (so to speak); the coffers fill up to a certain point and then one of those countless players hits the JP? Perhaps even the rest of those playing at the same time will notice the machine suddenly 'dying'?

Does that make sense, or am I way off track?

**vinylweatherman** · 27th June 2011, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by H1_Roller

I didn't want to continue derailing that other thread, so I'm starting a new one for a little discussion about AWPs (or Fruities) at online casinos.

Whilst I now know what they are (and I have a sense of how they work), I still have a question about them:

Take "Jamaican a Fortune!" on MG casinos for example. If I go and play this, and just keep hammering away at it, will there come a time that it is 'forced' (as KK or VWM put it?) to pay out big to me (even if it meant I'm still losing after the big winner), or because other people are playing at the same time, is all this money going into one single machine (so to speak); the coffers fill up to a certain point and then one of those countless players hits the JP? Perhaps even the rest of those playing at the same time will notice the machine suddenly 'dying'?

Does that make sense, or am I way off track?

Some games are less clear than others. This one seems less predictable than the others. There does seem to be an element of money being "forced" in by one player being won by another player. This becomes obvious on the rare occasions that you have barely played, but get a jackpot feature out of the blue. The payouts when the jackpot feature is NOT forced are usually MUCH larger than when it has been forced out.

Microgaming have tried to make the games less predictable, for the obvious reason that UK players will have a considerable advantage.

My biggest ever fruitie payout of 52K was NOT from a "forced" session of play, but came completely out of the blue having fed a mere £300 into the game. This had to have come from other players, and they would have experienced a "dead" game for quite some time.
I am sure the exact mechanism used to trigger such payouts is a closely guarded secret at MGS HQ, otherwise if the formula were known, the games would be VERY predictable, and players knowing what to look for would ALWAYS keep winning.
This is very much how the real thing works in arcades and the seaside. Players who know the game can watch the patterns as others play, and choose the best time to leap in and go for the "force". With the online version, we cannot watch the machine as others play, so have no idea what money overall it has taken. The game "temperature" indicator does NOT record jackpot features, only jackpot reel wins, and should NEVER be taken as a sign that a big payout has not occured for some time.

The highest ever streak posted was about 70K on "Game On", a machine that does not seem "forceable". This player was betting the max 10 per spin, and hit a sequence of jackpot features that netted some 70K before the game died.

Most of these games only make it to the Flash version, which I find pretty annoying since server lag is far worse in flash, so I rarely use it.

Six Bomb seems to be a "new generation" game, and does NOT obey "the force", even though it looks like it will. This game was "Microgaming's revenge" on me

**H1_Roller** · 27th June 2011, 08:55 PM

Thank you vinyl

**Jasminebed** · 28th June 2011, 01:55 AM

I really want to know who figured out Lucky Darts to such an extent that 32Red no longer offers ANY comps for playing it.

**Nifty29** · 28th June 2011, 02:42 AM

Sorry vinyl how much did you win again?

**H1_Roller** · 28th June 2011, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Jasminebed

I really want to know who figured out Lucky Darts to such an extent that 32Red no longer offers ANY comps for playing it.

I want to know more!

**pinkfloyd** · 28th June 2011, 03:59 AM

im no expert on fruits but my win came out of the blue , ive never hit top prize on one of them before so unlike vinyl i just sort of hope when i play them lol
track n field mouse is one of my favs tho always seem to get playtime out of it by switching the gold and silver around , havent hit the meeces yet , hope to one day ;-)

does anyone here know who makes jamacian a fortune , the software company ? apparently its not microgaming

**vinylweatherman** · 28th June 2011, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by pinkfloyd

im no expert on fruits but my win came out of the blue , ive never hit top prize on one of them before so unlike vinyl i just sort of hope when i play them lol
track n field mouse is one of my favs tho always seem to get playtime out of it by switching the gold and silver around , havent hit the meeces yet , hope to one day ;-)

does anyone here know who makes jamacian a fortune , the software company ? apparently its not microgaming

I believe these games are made by a company that has a number of programmers from the UK land based Fruit machine companies. Many were bought out by Barcrest, who now have Kerching casino as their online offering.

For this reason, they should respond to some of the playing tactics used by "old school" fruitie players, and they DO

As for lucky darts, merely no comps anymore.

Treasure Ireland (£52K Nifty

) - they took out the GAME

(Not seen Lucky Darts myself, probably worth a look, although maybe not at 32Red

)

**DiamondGeezer** · 28th June 2011, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Nifty29

Sorry vinyl how much did you win again?

To be fair to Vinyl it was an amazing story though. I never tire of hearing that one.

**Jasminebed** · 29th June 2011, 01:31 AM

Fruities are probably my favourite for small deposits. I rarely bet more than 25 cents. You can often get a lot of play for a small amount, and sometimes do quite well.

My first time playing Lucky Darts, it was brand new, and I hit $150 on a dime bet. I've yet to do anywhere near that well since, although I have had winning sessions.

A year ago, I had my day with Treasure Island too. Not up to VWM's, but still very good.

Cops and Robbers and it's clone Lady Luxor will pay back most of what you paid if you stick at it. I've yet to hit the 500x pay, usually somewhere around 200 - 250x bet size.

I enjoy the frequency of bonus rounds on most of them, and they take longer to play than standard slots.

Usually when I've won, I've been winning almost from the start.

And I must say, Six Bomb doesn't hate me. No jackpots, but I've had some pretty good sessions on low bets. Still haven't hit the 3 bombs to see that bonus feature, but I've had wins with multiple blue 7s and wilds.

I've played quite a bit of Spin Crazy. I've yet to hit big on it, but can usually play for a while and lots of features.

That danged Bill and Ted slot has been a pain. There's no holds, and plays much more like a conventional slot, but I've not did well at getting my money back out of it.

I enjoy Bingo Bango Boom quite a bit too. I was lucky enough to hit the 500x on the main game once, with holding one, then two, when it seemed to be running hot and I'd upped my bet. This was at Casino Rewards, when I had logged in and found 20 cents in my account, and cashed out the $250 I'd hit since they permitted withdrawal before wagering was complete. They do carry the wagering over though if you do that.

I've often wondered if the Casino Rewards properties had one common pool for the AWPs across all their platforms.