A slot with expanding symbols and Scatters

[SlotMonster]

We have a slot called "Luxor Valley", where players are given 10 free spins for 3 or more Scatters appeared anywhere on the reels, and random symbol will be selected as expanding symbol for the free spins (it takes 3 positions on the reels, like expanding Wild in Rival's "Scary Rich").

During the bonus game if 3 or more Scatters appeared - 10 more free spins added. But during free spins can be a situation, when expanding symbol and Scatter are on the same reel, so the Scatter is covered and disappeared. So, if player got 3 more Scatters (+10 free spins), and one of Scatters and expanding symbols are on the same reel - player will not get 10 more free spins and only get 2xbet added to their wins, because Scatter will be covered by expanding symbol.

Personally I don't think it's OK, but it's a weekend now, so I would like to hear your opinions before passing my thoughts to our management and dev. team

I was thinking about adding 10 free spins and THEN expanding symbol covering the reel, but open for discussion

Thanks!

[Perc]

Yep, scatters should pay (including a feature re-trigger) before the wild expands and pays on winlines.

I can't think of any specific slots off hand, but I know I've played slots that pay that way (scatters pay first) during free spins.

[ergopro]

I think scatters should pay first

[KasinoKing]

I agree with the above - scatters should pay (give more spins) first.
Anything else is unfair.

KK

[Repro]

Actually i think it's important to see if - and how - it would affect the (expected) RTP on that slot.

Personally i always like retriggers. It adds an extra sensation to the game if you can hit a retrigger in a feature.

Is it a low/medium/high variance slot?

[SlotMonster]

Actually i think it's important to see if - and how - it would affect the (expected) RTP on that slot.

Personally i always like retriggers. It adds an extra sensation to the game if you can hit a retrigger in a feature.

Is it a low/medium/high variance slot?

Yes, you are right, Repro. We have to calculate how it will affect RTP, but I will do my best to change gameplay

add: I would say it'a a Medium Variance slot.

[H1_Roller]

Definitely add more free spins before expanding for any other wins. Anything else would disappoint players.

[chuchu59]

whew! for a split-second i thought the scatters could expand and i was wondering how they could.

[rockycatt]

definitely dont disappoint players by loosing scatters to expanding wilds so i agree with the rest of poster's

[ShayDrew]

We have a slot called "Luxor Valley", where players are given 10 free spins for 3 or more Scatters appeared anywhere on the reels, and random symbol will be selected as expanding symbol for the free spins (it takes 3 positions on the reels, like expanding Wild in Rival's "Scary Rich").

During the bonus game if 3 or more Scatters appeared - 10 more free spins added. But during free spins can be a situation, when expanding symbol and Scatter are on the same reel, so the Scatter is covered and disappeared. So, if player got 3 more Scatters (+10 free spins), and one of Scatters and expanding symbols are on the same reel - player will not get 10 more free spins and only get 2xbet added to their wins, because Scatter will be covered by expanding symbol.

Personally I don't think it's OK, but it's a weekend now, so I would like to hear your opinions before passing my thoughts to our management and dev. team

I was thinking about adding 10 free spins and THEN expanding symbol covering the reel, but open for discussion

Thanks!

Just how LOTR works - you get retrigger and THEN one of the reels with the ring can go wild.....