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    Quote Originally Posted by holkapolka View Post
    I myself have experienced slot tournaments with Avalon and Hitman as very(!) bad slots, tomb raider i havent played at so much. Ive made a new website with inside tricks I have theories of might incrase winning chances..

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    Hello Norwegian guy

    I looked very quickly on your site. You have listed up 5 slots tips.

    5. To be more sure of winning on casino slot games an amount of $500 is needed.

    You can`t be sure to win on slots. Deposit $20 or $500 makes no difference

    6. If you have lost repeatedly (meaning 3-4mins.) of play increase the amount of bet per spin as the chances of winning after a long loosing time is great.

    I don`t agree. Every new spin is a "new session".

    3. Playing on old slot machines like the 777's have most likely lower payout percentage than the new ones that you can easily spot by looking at what casino slot machine has the best graphic. The new ones have been made after the casino's income have increased during the years and thereby have a higher payout rate than the old casino slots.

    Don`t agree. My experience is the opposite. I don`t tell you that you are wrong, I just don`t agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainmaker View Post
    Hello Norwegian guy

    I looked very quickly on your site. You have listed up 5 slots tips.

    5. To be more sure of winning on casino slot games an amount of $500 is needed.

    You can`t be sure to win on slots. Deposit $20 or $500 makes no difference

    Casinos originated in aristocratic places whereas people had money. The reason they have the option of "not spinning the wheels yourself" but the "auto option where you choose 100 spins for example done by the computer) means that the casinos know that one has to play many rounds to win. Ive been drinking a lot the past days and cant say anything more logical about that right now..


    6. If you have lost repeatedly (meaning 3-4mins.) of play increase the amount of bet per spin as the chances of winning after a long loosing time is great.

    I don`t agree. Every new spin is a "new session".

    No, it is all been calculated and made into a system by the casinos to ensure their income.

    3. Playing on old slot machines like the 777's have most likely lower payout percentage than the new ones that you can easily spot by looking at what casino slot machine has the best graphic. The new ones have been made after the casino's income have increased during the years and thereby have a higher payout rate than the old casino slots.

    Don`t agree. My experience is the opposite. I don`t tell you that you are wrong, I just don`t agree

    The 3. can be discussed offcourse but when it comes to real life slots on real life casinos the tip I believe is more true as they wouldn't change the system in the slot as easy as they can online.

    Thanks for feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holkapolka View Post
    Thanks for feedback.
    In THEORY, every spin SHOULD be a new session, but many veteran gamblers on this board subscribe to the notion that the gaming companies issue software with "cycles". Therefore, spins are clearly not random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nisosbar View Post
    In THEORY, every spin SHOULD be a new session, but many veteran gamblers on this board subscribe to the notion that the gaming companies issue software with "cycles". Therefore, spins are clearly not random.
    I agree.

    A slot can never be completely random because they are "rigged" to behave in a way that gives the player a certain payback percentage (in a long perspective). But every spin is a new session (in a cycle if you wish) independent of the previous spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainmaker View Post
    I agree.

    A slot can never be completely random because they are "rigged" to behave in a way that gives the player a certain payback percentage (in a long perspective). But every spin is a new session (in a cycle if you wish) independent of the previous spin.
    I agreed with your post before the one above, but totally disagree with this one.

    It is a common misconception IMO that slots need to be "rigged" to achieve their RTP. This is absolutely not true.
    Do casinos have to "rig" their roulette wheel to get a 2.7027% house advantage?
    No they don't - the edge is provided by the simple mathematics of the game.
    This is exactly the same for random video slots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KasinoKing View Post
    I agreed with your post before the one above, but totally disagree with this one.

    It is a common misconception IMO that slots need to be "rigged" to achieve their RTP. This is absolutely not true.
    Do casinos have to "rig" their roulette wheel to get a 2.7027% house advantage?
    No they don't - the edge is provided by the simple mathematics of the game.
    This is exactly the same for random video slots.

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    Yes, I totally agree with you. As I said, the games are "rigged" to behave in a certain way. For me, rigged means "set up". I did not mean rigged in as the way people often use the word in this forum (rigged in a bad way)

    Slots, blackjack and roulette are all set up in a way that gives the games a certain RTP (by mathematics in fair casinos)
    Last edited by rainmaker; 13th February 2011 at 03:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KasinoKing View Post
    I agreed with your post before the one above, but totally disagree with this one.

    It is a common misconception IMO that slots need to be "rigged" to achieve their RTP. This is absolutely not true.
    Do casinos have to "rig" their roulette wheel to get a 2.7027% house advantage?
    No they don't - the edge is provided by the simple mathematics of the game.
    This is exactly the same for random video slots.

    KK
    i would beg to differ with your statement kk , as i long time playing slots & roulette ive seen the most worst possible house edge , im not saying that there rigged but i will say that everyslot & card game produced from RNG is in fact weighted to % its to wether you play this at the right time concerning roulette MG casinos are the worst play for this ,you realy dont see that many realy big hits on roulette, although im aware alot of people play it ,house edge is there but also the RNG is weighted so these casinos dont get a massive losses on roulette , if you play it long enough you can see that it always has you one way or another , tell me how many times youve seen your number repeat lets 14 ive had it once , now what about a number you havnt had money placed on ive seen 6 times . random my bum , its weighted to wether & how much has gone into it . although i shall agree with live roulette being a 2.7027% but not RNG games )

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainmaker View Post
    Yes, I totally agree with you. As I said, the games are "rigged" to behave in a certain way. For me, rigged means "set up". I did not mean rigged in as the way people often use the word in this forum (rigged in a bad way)

    Slots, blackjack and roulette are all set up in a way that gives the games a certain RTP (by mathematics in fair casinos)
    I think your using the wrong word "rigged" - set up yes in a certain way to retain "House Edge" thats the optimum word here. There is no need for casinos to cheat with any software as they are built from the ground up with a house edge built it. This is not the same as somthing being rigged. It can feel like it somtimes for sure when you have 100s of spins say on slots and nothing pays but thats just the state of play. And the longer you play - into the "millions of spins" zone the closer you will get to the actual RTP which is usually somwhere between 92 and 96 ish %

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    Quote Originally Posted by doomed4ever View Post
    I think your using the wrong word "rigged" - set up yes in a certain way to retain "House Edge" thats the optimum word here. There is no need for casinos to cheat with any software as they are built from the ground up with a house edge built it. This is not the same as somthing being rigged. It can feel like it somtimes for sure when you have 100s of spins say on slots and nothing pays but thats just the state of play. And the longer you play - into the "millions of spins" zone the closer you will get to the actual RTP which is usually somwhere between 92 and 96 ish %

    Yes, you're probably right. Was wrong to use the word rigged. It happens since english isn`t my native language

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    I cannot vote in your poll because i won £900 on Avalon about 4 years ago but have not won significant amounts on the other two.

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