Non Sticky Question

**dazlazz** · 6th January 2011, 02:11 PM

Hi folks,

Are there any casinos whereby you get a 100% match say up to 100 - have to wager deposit and bonus x something, but you only use the deposit cash 1st say on slots, hit a large sum immediately - can you withdraw your deposit and winnings (i know you lose the bonus) even though WR has not been met?

Cheers,

Dazzla

**Jufo** · 6th January 2011, 03:27 PM

That is actually playing the bonus like a no-WR sticky so I don't understand the title of your post. At a few casinos this is allowed but at most you still have to finish the WR.

**Luckylizzy** · 6th January 2011, 03:52 PM

I have never seen any like that where you didn't have to meet wagering requirement before withdrawing winnings. I know casinos like All Jackpots, you can withdraw your deposit even if you claim a bonus without having to meet any WR like some casinos make you do. I don't like when casinos tie down money you put in just for claiming a bonus.

**petro** · 6th January 2011, 04:13 PM

Jackpot Factory group have bonuses like that.
All MG casinos that use Clearpay as a bonus system have those kinds of bonuses what you are looking for.
Downside is, bonus is nearly worthless from what I have found.

**dazlazz** · 6th January 2011, 05:03 PM

Cheers folks,

was looking at the T+Cs for 1 casino which wernt clear - then live support told me this was fine - then again the customer rep did take a long time to answer my questions, so not convinced - it did look a little too good to be true.

cheers,

Daz

**KasinoKing** · 7th January 2011, 09:39 AM

Some (most?) Wagerworks casinos have post-wager bonuses; If you win big early on you can just withdraw because you haven't even been given the bonus yet! This also means you can play ALL their games, though only the specified ones contribute to the WR of course.
If/when you do complete the WR, the bonus is given and is instantly cash-able

Also, Grand Virtual casinos allow early withdrawal with the forfeit of your bonus. In addition to that, theirs is a true Sticky Bonus system (not Phantom); When you've met WR and cash-out, your bonus chips are not lost - they stay in your account for you to play on with and (hopefully) win more.
Have a look at some examples in my GV Blogs: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/blogs/kasinoking/

KK

**dazlazz** · 7th January 2011, 11:18 AM

Thanks Petro,

The clearplay system is what I was looking for!!

Much appreciated - it just makes the bonus issue soo simple.

Regards,

Dazzla

**Jufo** · 7th January 2011, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by KasinoKing

Also, Grand Virtual casinos allow early withdrawal with the forfeit of your bonus. In addition to that, theirs is a true Sticky Bonus system (not Phantom); When you've met WR and cash-out, your bonus chips are not lost - they stay in your account for you to play on with and (hopefully) win more.
Have a look at some examples in my GV Blogs: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/blogs/kasinoking/

KK

Really? This is news to me. I always thought that at GV you have to meet the WR first, only then you can cashout every win by betting the bonus. So what is the difference between cashing out early and cashing out after meeting WR? Does the bonus disappear then (ie. is a Phantom sticky instead of Sticky II).

**KasinoKing** · 8th January 2011, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Jufo

Really? This is news to me. I always thought that at GV you have to meet the WR first, only then you can cashout every win by betting the bonus. So what is the difference between cashing out early and cashing out after meeting WR? Does the bonus disappear then (ie. is a Phantom sticky instead of Sticky II).

Well, unless they've changed it VERY recently, what I said is correct.
You can cash-out any time, but if you have not finished the WR, any bonus chips left are removed from your account.
(This can be less than the original bonus amount, if your bank dips below the bonus chip starting level at some point)
You will get a very clear warning message in the cashier, something like "If you continue with your withdrawal your bonus chips will be lost".

If you have finished the WR, the bonus chips are NOT removed when you cash-out.
You can never cash-out the bonus chips themselves, but like you said, you can play with them & turn them into real cash by winning, which you can cash out (in very small increments if you wish).

These bonuses are not as good as fully cashable obviously, but for me, WAY better than Phantom bonuses.
Grand Virtual also have some of the best slots on the net, IMHO.

KK