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    Is it true that casinos cheat on roulette

    I have a question.

    I have heard that when you play a roulette system at a casino the casino acutally change the logarithms after
    ex: 20 minutes.
    Is this true. That the casino actually make it harder to win over.

    If that is the case, is that really legal for a casino to do ? It really annoys me.

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    Question Casino cheat on roulette?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic View Post
    I have a question.

    I have heard that when you play a roulette system at a casino the casino acutally change the logarithms after
    ex: 20 minutes.
    Is this true. That the casino actually make it harder to win over.

    If that is the case, is that really legal for a casino to do ? It really annoys me.
    I have the same feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic View Post
    I have a question.

    I have heard that when you play a roulette system at a casino the casino acutally change the logarithms after
    ex: 20 minutes.
    Is this true. That the casino actually make it harder to win over.

    If that is the case, is that really legal for a casino to do ? It really annoys me.
    In a B&M casino there are no logarithms to change. Online which is what you appear to mean, a casino wouldn't cheat only if you used a system because that would be extremely easy to detect. Better just to cheat everyone slightly instead a few select people majorly. In jurisdictions with significant gaming laws, non-random software or other rigged games is usually illegal. How stringent they are about enforcement is another matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic View Post
    I have a question.

    I have heard that when you play a roulette system at a casino the casino acutally change the logarithms after
    ex: 20 minutes.
    Is this true. That the casino actually make it harder to win over.

    If that is the case, is that really legal for a casino to do ? It really annoys me.
    Changing logarithms? From base 10 to natural? Face up the fact that in the long run you will lose, whether you use a system or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic View Post
    I have a question.

    I have heard that when you play a roulette system at a casino the casino acutally change the logarithms after
    ex: 20 minutes.
    Is this true? That the casino actually make it harder to win over.

    If that is the case, is that really legal for a casino to do ? It really annoys me.
    You've asked the exact same question on another forum twice in the last month, so I will give the same answer I gave you there:

    1. Highly unlikely IMHO.
    Why would the casinos cheat when the odds are always in their favour anyway?
    The only time the odds can be in the player's favour is when using certain bonuses - that's why they impose such high WRs on them.

    2. No it would not be legal for regulated online or B&M casinos to "fiddle" with the outcomes of games they claim to be 100% random.
    It's true that most online casino are NOT properly regulated, however I still believe the software used by the vast majority is 100% fair. The problems mostly come from "rogue" operators who will try every trick in the book to try to not pay legitimate winners. That's why you need to be careful when choosing where to play.

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    From a programmer's perspective, and also as somebody that contracts this kind of stuff, I can tell you that wouldn't be at all a cost effective way to do things. The amount of change between one bet or another means you gotta write a fuzzy logic system for it. There's no reason to do that. Guys who want to cheat players are cheapskate fucks to start off with, and don't spend money developing crazy complicated things like that.

    Martingales lose because there's a max bet. That's all there is to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstrike View Post
    From a programmer's perspective, and also as somebody that contracts this kind of stuff, I can tell you that wouldn't be at all a cost effective way to do things. The amount of change between one bet or another means you gotta write a fuzzy logic system for it. There's no reason to do that. Guys who want to cheat players are cheapskate fucks to start off with, and don't spend money developing crazy complicated things like that.

    Martingales lose because there's a max bet. That's all there is to it.
    You couldn't have said it better, JS!
    I used to play Roulette really a lot, and won about 17k euro on it in one casino (BetVoyager), and I'm 100% sure they didn't cheat. They are using Randomness Control, so I was sure that if I'm losing - that's because I'm betting on wrong numbers

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