Stargames baptism by fire.

[Rusty]

Just visited this site out of curiosity and experienced several bugs and crashes, not least not being able to access my account.

What really caught my attention though was their bonus T&C's

Your bonus is forfeited should you withdraw your winnings without having met the following conditions: 1. You must have played at least as many games as Euros you received as a bonus.2. You must have used your total bonus in stakes.

For example: With a bonus of EUR 25, you must have played at least 25 games and have played for stakes totalling at least EUR 25 in these games before you withdraw your winnings.

What is that all about?
Sounds like you need a minimum of 1xplaythrough on 25 different games and since they only have a handful of slots it is hardly enticing.

They also charge a minimum of 1 euro on every withdrawal.

Other than that they use a software I haven't played before so I would be willing to give them a try, not as things stand though.

EDIT

Hang on, they are already accredited but they are listed as supplying skill games rather than a Casino.
Bryan may want to have the Casino operation separated from the skill games unless he was aware of the Casino when they were accredited.

[asianeyes]

Some of these T's & C's are really beginning to go TWILIGHT ZONE.

Good spotting again, Rusty.

[De Beuker]

So if I deposit €100.- with a €100.- bonus I have to play 100 different games??
But..they dont HAVE 100 different games!

Seems like they dont want you to deposit more than €25.-

[KasinoKing]

I had a long Skype conversation with one of their senior people yesterday - asking me to promote them, obviously.

The first thing I noticed was their unusual bonus terms, so we discussed this at some length.
You don't have to play 25 different games, just place 25+ bets and wager 25+ in total (for a 25 credit bonus).
Their welcome bonus is actually +EV for the "bonus whores", but he didn't seem bothered when I pointed that out...

I was also very unhappy that the bonus T&Cs are "hidden" in the "Help" pages - but he did say that they would be re-laying out the website pretty soon and making them more accessible.

Their slot games wont appeal to the masses here - they are basically UK arcade style slots = nothing like the online slots most of us play & love. And they don't have very many either - only about 10 I think.

KK

[vinylweatherman]

I had a long Skype conversation with one of their senior people yesterday - asking me to promote them, obviously.

The first thing I noticed was their unusual bonus terms, so we discussed this at some length.
You don't have to play 25 different games, just place 25+ bets and wager 25+ in total (for a 25 credit bonus).
Their welcome bonus is actually +EV for the "bonus whores", but he didn't seem bothered when I pointed that out...

I was also very unhappy that the bonus T&Cs are "hidden" in the "Help" pages - but he did say that they would be re-laying out the website pretty soon and making them more accessible.

Their slot games wont appeal to the masses here - they are basically UK arcade style slots = nothing like the online slots most of us play & love. And they don't have very many either - only about 10 I think.

KK

Speak for yourself

Just because YOU came to grief with the Pirate, doesn't mean I didn't make a tidy profit on the high seas before the ship was sunk by the MGS navy patrol

The terms are a little confusing though, I think I know what they MEAN, and it's similar in principle to the "max allowable bet clause" now used to prevent players placing a single big bet followed by "grinding".

As you have spotted, their version of the term offers NO such protection from the "whores", in fact it allows pretty much EVERY advantage play tactic known. There is NO effective max bet, only a minimum number of TOTAL bets. The second part is obeyed in full as soon as the advantage player bets the lot on black, and the first part is met as soon as a relatively small number of bets is placed on the "grind" stage.

For the rest, it's a bonus with a 1x WR. Even if non cashable, it's a good deal better than the non cashable RTG and Rival bonuses that ALSO come with very high WR.

I hope for their sake that they have been VERY thorough in testing their "UK style arcade slots" before release

[AudiManinBoro]

When you take one spin on a slot, that is classed as one game, play ten spins you have played ten games. My understanding of it anyway

[yoshirules]

Do you have to take the bonus? Does anyone know?

[yoshirules]

I deposited €20 anyway. But all the games give me a 500 - Internal server error. Whats up with that?

[Seventh777]

I deposited €20 anyway. But all the games give me a 500 - Internal server error. Whats up with that?

Don`t want to spook you here, but, and I quote.....

`Note: If the 500 Internal Server Error message appears during the checkout process at an online merchant, be aware that duplicate attempts to checkout may end up creating multiple orders - and multiple charges! Most merchants have automatic protections from these kinds of actions but it's still something to keep in mind`.

No matter what, it is a problem their end with the server!!!.

[yoshirules]

thanks for your answer. The deposit went oke, a few minutes later I could play....I did send the support two emails about 24 hours ago still no reply. Too slow I think