NO WAY!!!! casino AC passes on peoples documents :O

[sparkz]

well after my recent issue where they would not accept my birth certificate and demand I send "government ID" which people in the uk do not have or driving licence or passport (i dont drive and have never been overseas)

Anyways I put my rightful side across and they said they wont accept that because aparantly they have been sent "ids" from people in the UK...

I debated it and they said:

"We have processed withdrawals for people in the UK and we have always received their ID's and this has never been an issue. To give you an example, please check the attached file.

Again, please keep in mind that we cannot proceed with your withdrawal unless you send us some ID.
"

and guess what was attached??

A picture of a guy holding his ID card... its a "UK identity card" I mean wtf.. surely thoese are only issused to people with a profession like a dr or university students.

I wont post the picture up but would send it to max or CM if they would like to confirm it is actually a players ID they have sent me. It clearly shows everything and the full ID card number

A rogue just became more rogue and in breach of a lot more than shafting peoples wallets

[Mavin1]

Hope to see an update on this issue. That is very worrying that a casino would actually send another players pic and info as an example of docs required.

[sparkz]

No idea why it tagged as "casino atlantic city"... I was refering to Onlinecasino AC

many people have sent in IDS and recieved payments before...

[GrandMaster]

A picture of a guy holding his ID card... its a "UK identity card" I mean wtf.. surely thoese are only issused to people with a profession like a dr or university students.

Something like
? Have you not been listening to the news for the past 7 years or so?

[Rusty]

Something like
? Have you not been listening to the news for the past 7 years or so?

What news?


ID cards scheme to be scrapped within 100 days

Bill abolishing ID cards and national identity register will be first piece of legislation introduced to parliament by the new government, says Theresa May

[sparkz]

no nothing like that image... lol

It was taken like someone would for a casino, no traces of it on a google search and the file was named with the tagging that some cameras and phones tag their files as

Theyre already suspiscious so it wouldnt suprise me

[P.V.]

Not good if in fact this is actually a copy from a players doc. request. Keep us informed, would like to know if it appears to be legit or just a stock internet photo.

[GrandMaster]

What news?
ID cards scheme to be scrapped within 100 days
Bill abolishing ID cards and national identity register will be first piece of legislation introduced to parliament by the new government, says Theresa May

I do keep up with the news, but sparkz seemed to be blissfully unaware of the existence of government issued ID cards in the UK. (How do you interpret "surely thoese are only issused to people with a profession like a dr or university students"?)

[sparkz]

There has never been any ID card scheme ever mentioned to me. Theres ID cards that people get with their passport and theres student ID cards.

As far as I have always been away the government ID cards never came into play since they were too costly.

As I mention it seems to me that it isnt a stock photo. I have searched for hours trying to see if it is but found nothing.

What also makes me wonder is due to "Always Cool Casino"'s rogue nature in general (related to pamper casino)

[vinylweatherman]

I do keep up with the news, but sparkz seemed to be blissfully unaware of the existence of government issued ID cards in the UK. (How do you interpret "surely thoese are only issused to people with a profession like a dr or university students"?)

There have been a number of schemes, but they have ALWAYS been aimed at certain target groups. There has NEVER been a GENERAL ID card scheme. Unless you are in one of the target groups, you may not have heard of such schemes.

The most well known scheme is for people under 25 to be able to show ID in shops & bars to prove they are old enough to buy age restricted products. This scheme has NOT been marketed to adults over 25.

There were some voluntary trials for the intended ID card, but now that the decision has been made to scrap the scheme altogether, these trials will end.

The casino MUST be lying in saying "this has never been an issue before". probably what they mean is that they have never PAID under these circumstances before, thus ripping off innocent players, as well as stopping frauds.

MOST players will use their drivers licence card as a proxy "government issued ID", although in many cases players will STILL have the old paper drivers licence. The government have decided it is too costly to update everybody to a photo card version, and only do so when drivers get a new licence for any reason.

The ONLY reason I now have a photo licence is that for a while my licence was "medical - restricted", so when this status was first applied I had to surrender my paper licence (valid till I am 70, another 21 years), and got a 3 year photo licence in it's place. This was pretty damn fortunate, otherwise I too would be in the same position as the OP.

For someone who doesn't drive, they have no access to a photo card licence (in other words, government issued ID) unless they commit a criminal offense by lying to the DVLA to get one (such as applying for a provisional, even though medically unfit to drive).

Many older people get to the stage where they decide to give up driving. There is no "official" facility to retain the licence as an ID document, you are supposed to surrender it. People too old to drive are NOT necessarily too old to gamble online.

The ONLY general scheme that exists now is "validateuk.co.uk". HOWEVER, again it is a "proof of age" card, rather than an ID card. It shows a photo of the older, and printed next to it is nothing more than their DOB and "ADULT over 18" indicating the category of card issued.


This is now the ONLY general "government issued ID" card that EVERYBODY is allowed to apply for, even if NOT in a "special category". It costs £10 (£20 if you want the express 5 day service), and it can be applied for by POST.

The passport has now to be applied for IN PERSON, and costs up to £100. This is not a viable option for sparkz (and others like him) given his situation, and remote location.

Other cards are NOT available to everyone, and these include such things as pensioner bus passes, cards to prove eligibilty to receive certain services free or at a discount, "disabled" passes (such as the "blue badge" scheme for disabled drivers). There are also cards that LOOK like official "government issued ID cards", but they are NOT. These are issued by workplaces where security is a concern, such as Ministry of Defence offices, armed forces, and industries vulnerable to "spies".

Other "ID cards" are available, but they are bought over the internet, and are intended to allow people to pass themselves off as something they are not, rather than protect the system from fraud.
In the absence of an official UK government ID card, we have many different cards acting as a proxy for an ID, making it easy to get past the checks if you are prepared to be a little "creative", yet the HONEST who are NOT prepared to do this are left with these problems to contend with.

The casino in this case has not appreciated that whilst they have received suitable ID from UK players, it does NOT mean that EVERYBODY is routinely issued with such a card, UNLIKE many other countries. They CANNOT take it upon themselves to decide that "the Uk MUST do it" simply because most other countries have gone down the universal ID card route. The BIG problem is that players only find out they even HAVE this problem when they withdraw, and find that NOTHING they have been issued by ANY government organisation will do, with there being no obvious way to get hold of other documents that might work.