Video Poker - where do you guys get the patience to play???

[darkpixie]

Or is there a strategy to playing. Like do 5 hands a day or something till you hit big? I have tried playing video poker but I find myself bored to death. Would love to hit a royal or something.

 

[Balky]

The doubling feature is very thrilling, although I am often too reckless (greedy), sometimes one more doubling brings really a good balance boost. I would never play VP without doubling.

B.

 

[hitobito2005]

Multi hand is more interesting than single hand.

I find VP more interesting than slots.

 

[colly]

Or is there a strategy to playing. Like do 5 hands a day or something till you hit big? I have tried playing video poker but I find myself bored to death. Would love to hit a royal or something.

Hi

VP can be as addictive as slots!! It is not completley random like slots so try out for 5 and move on doesn't work. Like slots you can get a cold game and hot ones but you have a level of control on the play you don't have with slots.

Try to have a bankroll that allows at least 100 coins eg for a 25c coin base have at least 25 for Jacks or better but more for wild games and bonus variants.

VP is definitely a strategy game and if your paytables are good (some casino's aren't full pay) can give you a better return for less money than slots- They also play longer (thats why the playthrough when rarely allowed a VP Bonus is so high)

Firstly choose your game and check the paytables at each casino =quite often the paytable will vary at RTG's although micro is prety standard - eg of Jacks or Better (the easiest game) look for 45 pay on Full house and 30 on flush.

The wild games add a different chance factor and the bonus games have some quite high pays for non royal hands however watch out for those ones where the bonus card eg 8's leads you away from the strategy for royals and be aware that these games usually compensate for the high bonus card payout in some other way. The pays on 2 3 4 of a kind, flushes and Full house are what keeps you in funds so you get a chance at the royals

Try to play where the best paytable- if you are into Jokers wild play RTG as Micro shorts you on the 4of a kind.

If you are new to VP then use the strategy tables to learn how to play and hold- google and get them from rep gambling advice sites. They are standard which will tell you what to hold and discard and have been tested over multiple times (Wizard of Odds if he is still about will give you pointers).

This is certainly a game you can "perfect" in free play mode at an RTG before risking your own money . (Not MIcro as it tends to throw out much more royals in free play than you would get in real play)

As a general rule try to play alll five coins whatever the denomination as in some games the Royal Flush will only be maxed on 5 coins.

My picks at the various software types

Jacks or better - micro, rtg
Ace and faces- Playtech, Micro
Jokers wild , RTG
Deuces wild - RTG and Micro
2 way royal at playtech can take take a while to get there but I have had a few royals due to this twist

I tend to stay away from bonus games other than Jackpot poker at RTG (which is really aces and faces anyway)

WHether you play mutlihand o r single play is personal choice- not that keen on multihand myself and you need a higher bankroll.

I never double up or gamble in any game (VP or slots) as I find it hard enough to win first times round. If you double up on VP you do alter the possible returns defined by the strategies- but once again its personal choice.

I have had a few big wins on slots over the years but any real consistent bankroll has been from VP- didn;t get a royal for about the first 6 months but have had more than few since then,

Hope this helps
cheers colly

 

[Mousey]

The fun for me was in learning the strategies for the various VP games I like. (And the strategies vary with the paytables, even playing the same game). I practiced on WinPoker faithfully for hours on end. And then the fun comes in searching out the best paytables, and then trying out my skills in real play to see how well I do... I still play @ 99% accuracy on DDB and JoB.... (which needs to be improved again) ... but my skill level on other games has tapered off greatly with my lack of regular play. (R.I.P. Global Player )

Hopefully, I'll have time for more practice and study this winter, and get a chance to test my skills at the B&M. (I'm not playing online these days.)

 

[Smokeycasino]

If you use auto hold it does feel like a slot, sort of.

Do you VP players use auto hold or prefer not to?

Thanks

 

[mistertee]

i personally use auto-hold most of the time

 

[Balky]

Always with auto-hold

B.

 

[denamoutz]

my favorite place to play VP is 3dice I like the auto hold feature, and i tend to do very well playing the dueces wild games! I"m starting to like VP better than the slots, and with VP my bankroll tends to last longer

 

[colly]

If you use auto hold it does feel like a slot, sort of.

Do you VP players use auto hold or prefer not to?

Thanks

Hi
VP never feels like a slot to me (except when its cold) however using autohold is a matter of personal pref but a good idea unless you are confident about your strategy knowledge.

Be aware that the autohold is programmed on base strategy for game expectatio/return over the long term= which doesn't ALWAYS mean best chance on any single game for the royal. I do override this sometimes but willing to take that chance.

RTG does not have an autohold hold option on VP

Cheers

 

[4 of a kind]

Online video poker games and BJ are slot machines. Pay tables on video poker are no different then pay tables on slots. Your money management should be the same you use when playing a slot machine... Game play is not based on random 52 card draw.

Read this:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/is-online-blackjack-software-rtp-based-or-random.38938/

We have pursued every casino software being used and not one will come forward and declare one way or the other. Only Slotland with this statement.

Quote:
With card games the probability of hitting the jackpot combination is not natural, but controlled by this shared random generator in the same exact way that slot machines are won.

 

[hitobito2005]

4 of a kind, you have no proof of that (other than slotland).

I highly doubt the major software providors use slot machines behind the graphics of BJ/VP.

 

[Simmo!]

Multi hand is more interesting than single hand.

Totally agree. Single hand bores the pants off me but 25 or 50 hand is far more fun. I guess it ties in with the slot mentality of trying to get that BIG hit, in this case a pat Royal Flush, straight flush or 4oak.

My favourite VP is Crypto's which is the closest to IGT's VP games. It's a minor thing, but the slight pause and sound effect that accompanies a big hit makes the game for me.

 

[Jasminebed]

One of my favourite Video Pokers is Pick 'Em Poker, or Pick a Pair poker (same game, different name). It is the one I play most at B&Ms, and the only one I play at RTG. I don't play poker often at RTG, just don't like the interface as well, but I will sometimes make a bonus free deposit to play it.

Autohold varies from software to software, and while I have autohold on, I don't always accept its choices. My one and only online Royal, I went against keeping a pair of Qs to draw on 3 to the Royal. I don't play for hours usually, and am hoping for a winning session, not lifetime stable stats.

I particularly like the 3Dice software for single hand VP, where you click the cards and not a little hold button.

 

[Simmo!]

I particularly like the 3Dice software for single hand VP, where you click the cards and not a little hold button.

I think you can do that on most softwares actually, although can't remember RTG. Certainly can on Playtech and MG.

 

[4 of a kind]

4 of a kind, you have no proof of that (other than slotland).

I highly doubt the major software providers use slot machines behind the graphics of BJ/VP.

I have to disagree with you here. What is it you need that would convince you?

Almost all alleged online regulatory bodies have been contacted requesting this information, which by the way should be common knowledge for anyone that requests it. Sorry, absolutely not one single response.

Twelve active casino reps. (at this forum) representing most of the software platforms were privately requested to answer this question, and the only responses were from two reps. who pretty much made matters worse by ignoring the question while rambling on about the theories of random.

Bryan who also has visited several of the threads that involved this matter never once responded directly to this issue. Either his high level inside connections won’t tell him, or maybe silence is by far the better for business decision. How Bryan could ignore such a serious and important question several different times is beyond me. The answer would help all of the players apply the proper strategy when playing these games enhancing their experiences. Isn’t this what this whole site is allegedly based on?

In addition you have several professional online video poker players that have complained after playing millions and millions of hands over years and years of experiences, and know for fact that the sudden negative change over the last few years has nothing to do with random but could only be a result of lowered RTP’s with these games.

You would think that Casino Reps. Bryan, Regulators, Online Casino Owners, would come rushing forward after the first request for this information waving banners, and blowing horns, PROUDLY proving with fact that video poker and BJ are not slot machines. Sorry, absolutely not one single response. Unless of course you want to count the couple of blowing random theory smoke up our asses a response at all.

I seriously think that the people that are involved with and are making money off online casinos existence seriously think that the majority of players are all stupid fools.

This amount of silence from some many different people who are in the know is repulsive. If you have any doubts after all of this then maybe their thoughts of the knowledge of players is not flawed.

Wake up please; this silence should have broken your ear drums.

 

[Jasminebed]

Slotland got "busted" for using a Slot RNG for cards for their VP.

Now we know, so that's cool.

Some of the B&Ms use bingo machines to comply with state regulators. The ones I play here in Ontario I trust are not, because they say they are not and they are regulated.

Quite a bit of the house edge on VP comes from players not playing Max Bet or optimal strategy. My one and only B&M Royal was on one coin when I was down to $6 and still had time until my bus.

My one and only online Royal I kept 3 to the Royal when I had a pair of Queen, and I like that the MG autohint gave me my odds.

MG is a pretty big player in the online Casino world, and I do trust the software.

3Dice, I mostly trust because they can do the math. Just like the B&Ms I play at, they say it is a random deck. And even if I am wrong, I'll play VP from time to time there. To be honest, I've been pretty lucky given the amount I play in real.

I've played little VP at Bet365, the only Playtech I play at. I do like the half-gamble feature. I have no opinion about the nature of the VP.

RTG, well, I don't have enough statistical evidence to form an opinion, and I also don't have a "Help" button that tells me how the game performs.

And really, I've only played Pick Em there.

 

[hitobito2005]

I have to disagree with you here. What is it you need that would convince you?

I agree that silence from the operators is not good.

But you shoudln't make statements about software being rigged just because nobody has told you it isn't. You should seek proof that it is rigged.

With blackjack this is easy to do - a 95% return over 15,000 hands is pretty much proof that it's rigged (-5.3sd). You could do that in a day on MG autoplay.

VP would take a bit longer to prove since it's a higher variance game.

 

[GrandMaster]

I have to disagree with you here. What is it you need that would convince you?

Solid data instead of rants.

 

[heatherad]

Or is there a strategy to playing. Like do 5 hands a day or something till you hit big? I have tried playing video poker but I find myself bored to death. Would love to hit a royal or something.

I had started playing Single Hand Joker Poker for awhile now simply because it seems to give you a tad more playing time for your money than slots. I have hit a few royals (paying $200) but lately the game doesn't seem to be paying diddly squat. Rather have 3 extra minutes playing VP than loosing it all in 5 minutes on slots

 

[4 of a kind]

Solid data instead of rants.

You would think that long time experienced veterans like GrandMaster above by now have seen and heard it all.

Players have exhausted every avenue available to them trying to find out what should be the most basic and available information about online Video Poker and Black Jack. These endless requests have fallen on deaf ears. It would appear and one could only conclude that based on the silence from requests, that online casinos prefer us not to know the facts about these games denying us the opportunity to apply the correct strategy. This uncertainty and lack of what should be common knowledge for all, only benefits and enhances the casinos bottom line.

Instead of long time veterans like GrandMaster, advocates, and affiliates, combining efforts in any attempts to help the players; they prefer to deny the obvious, attempting to discredit all efforts and experiences by players accusing them of ranting. What GrandMaster says above is the perfect example and common practices being used to help the casinos remain silent and continue having their way with us.

 

[hitobito2005]

Why don't you just collect some data? That would be much more useful than ranting.

You don't need to get data from the operators.

 

[4 of a kind]

Why don't you just collect some data? That would be much more useful than ranting.

You don't need to get data from the operators.

Any data ever presented by a player would and has been in the past riddled with debate holes and ruled inconclusive. Even if you were to agree with any data being presented, what and where will that get anyone. What would be the next step? I put a lot of effort into pursuing this information now for over six months. I’ve contacted everyone possible that should have been able to answer me, and never got the questioned answered. So even if you provided personal stats, (and since their personal stats that alone would be grounds enough to shoot a few holes through its conclusion right out of the gate) why would any of the same people questioned in the past who didn’t respond, all of a sudden decide to respond now?

I was able to from my personal experiences conclude that online Video Poker and Black Jack are slot machines. As a result of this personal conclusion I no longer play. I will admit over the last two months I entered for three sessions. The deposits were small along with the bets and I treated Video Poker and BJ like any other slot machine, and got the expected results.

I can’t guarantee with 100% certainty I’m right. I’m not ranting about conspiracies or rigged. I just want to know for confirmed fact, and I’m sure I speak for most Video Poker and BJ players; are we right by implying slot machine money management and strategies when playing online Video Poker or BJ?

To a professional Video Poker player if in fact he or she were playing against a 52 card deck or 53 (with joker) with hands being dealt from random draw, the sessions at one game would be much longer, and the bets much larger, playing (and hoping) for probabilities. If Video Poker were just another version of a slot machine with hands being based on secondary software decisions, the sessions would be smaller and the bets also much smaller. The mistake of playing with the wrong strategy could be very costly to a serious player. Instead of playing $25.00 a hand for long sessions hoping for expected probabilities, the player instead should have been playing $5.00 a hand for short sessions, and discarding different cards looking for other options. This mistake could lead to thousands of dollars being lost time and time again, where the player would have been better off losing that money chasing a random jackpot.

This information is huge for the player to enhance their chances for longer play time, hence giving them a better chance to win.

The casinos and gaming regulators refusing to come forward with this much needed information, should obviously with no doubt conclude that the players observations and accusations are accurate.

Speaking as what I consider to be a true player’s advocate, when playing online Video Poker or BJ, I recommend you use slot machine money management, and strategies, unless proven otherwise.

People like myself who come forward and stand for what’s right are not likely to win many friends here. It’s obvious this is a serious billion dollar industry, and I’ll be viewed just as another temporary pain in the ass, and a ranting loser. And just for the record I've been gambling and losing for over 36 years. So when it comes to online gaming, I just want to know I'm losing the right way.

 

[hitobito2005]

Any data ever presented by a player would and has been in the past riddled with debate holes and ruled inconclusive. Even if you were to agree with any data being presented, what and where will that get anyone. What would be the next step?

Find the thread by "thelawnet" about English Harbour cheating on VP doubling.

He collected a sample and proved that the game was rigged.

Then lots of other people collected data and it reflected the same truth, that the game was rigged.

A massive fuss was kicked up, read the thread. If you post some data showing BJ is rigged (very easy to do!) it will not be ignored.

 

[4 of a kind]

Find the thread by "thelawnet" about English Harbour cheating on VP doubling.

He collected a sample and proved that the game was rigged.

Then lots of other people collected data and it reflected the same truth, that the game was rigged.

A massive fuss was kicked up, read the thread. If you post some data showing BJ is rigged (very easy to do!) it will not be ignored.

Based on what I highlighted above in your last response, I could only assume that either your not reading my posts, or insist on trying to ignore what should be a common obtainable knowledge answer to my question and trying to turn my simple request into a rigged rant, or never played Video Poker or BJ therefore you don't have any idea what I'm talking about, or sadly it has become obvious your comprehension skills are not up to par in which case I feel I owe you an apology.

 

[ergopro]

All Aces (Microgaming), single and multi-hand...love that game...

 

[DaveG39]

Test paytables/variances @ vpgenius.com. Generate a "optimal strategy" chart using either TomSki's generator (if possible) or vpgenious. My personal favorite @ Inetbet is Pick'Em (low variance and relatively high RTP paytable).

 

[GrandMaster]

You would think that long time experienced veterans like GrandMaster above by now have seen and heard it all.

Players have exhausted every avenue available to them trying to find out what should be the most basic and available information about online Video Poker and Black Jack. These endless requests have fallen on deaf ears. It would appear and one could only conclude that based on the silence from requests, that online casinos prefer us not to know the facts about these games denying us the opportunity to apply the correct strategy. This uncertainty and lack of what should be common knowledge for all, only benefits and enhances the casinos bottom line.

Instead of long time veterans like GrandMaster, advocates, and affiliates, combining efforts in any attempts to help the players; they prefer to deny the obvious, attempting to discredit all efforts and experiences by players accusing them of ranting. What GrandMaster says above is the perfect example and common practices being used to help the casinos remain silent and continue having their way with us.

I recorded my at MG for several years. My results, the proportion of win/loss/draw in blackjack, the distribution of final hands in VP are well within the expected range and I am ahead at both blackjack and VP. My experience just does not support your claims.

 

[hitobito2005]

Based on what I highlighted above in your last response, I could only assume that either your not reading my posts, or insist on trying to ignore what should be a common obtainable knowledge answer to my question and trying to turn my simple request into a rigged rant, or never played Video Poker or BJ therefore you don't have any idea what I'm talking about, or sadly it has become obvious your comprehension skills are not up to par in which case I feel I owe you an apology.

You're saing that card distributions are not based on a random 52-card deck. You're saying that the output you see is based on an underlying slot machine and does not reflect true probabilities.

That is the same as saying that the game = rigged.

I've played many hundreds of thousands of hands of blackjack and VP online and my results are well within expectation.

 

[Tengil]

You're saing that card distributions are not based on a random 52-card deck. You're saying that the output you see is based on an underlying slot machine and does not reflect true probabilities.

That is the same as saying that the game = rigged.

I've played many hundreds of thousands of hands of blackjack and VP online and my results are well within expectation.

It doesnt necessarily mean that the game would be random if your results are within expectation in the long run.

Not saying that any certain softwares BJ would be non random still producing "fair" results in the long run, but wouldnt be surprised if some smaller softwares would get caught.
Chartwell has got its fair share of accusations of behaving like that.

 

[4 of a kind]

I recorded my at MG for several years. My results, the proportion of win/loss/draw in blackjack, the distribution of final hands in VP are well within the expected range and I am ahead at both blackjack and VP. My experience just does not support your claims.

The fact that your ahead in both Video Poker and Blackjack after years of playing online is a good thing.There are also slot players like Kasino King who are still ahead after years of playing and continue to clean house. I say "cheers" and wish nothing but endless success for both of you and all other winners.

Just because I think Video Poker and Black Jack are slot machines certainly don't mean there won't be winners. Like slot machines if RTP's were lowered in card games, that doesn't mean the randoms or other jackpots or royal flushes won't be won anymore. All it means is not as often. There are slot players that hit two randoms in one day and several within a month. Yet there are others that never hit one in over a decade of playing. There are players that made first time deposits and won 6 figure jackpots, many we read about here. Years ago I even hit 3 royal flushes for 20K each on 3 different poker games over a 4 day period.

This whole conversation is not intended to be an argument about you or anyone else supporting what I or anyone else support.

I'm not debating who is lucky and who isn't. I'm not debating or accusing online casinos of cheating or not. I'm not debating or accusing online casinos of any conspiracy's. I'm not debating or accusing online casinos of being rigged or magic kill buttons.

It is common knowledge that Video Poker and Black Jack when being played from computer software, can be programed to play from two different platforms. Random 52 card deck draw with expected probabilities, or pre-determined house edge percentages like slot machines.

Las-Vegas (Nevada) all Video Poker machines are random 52 card deck draws. Atlantic City on the other hand their Video Poker is based on pre-determined house edge games. (slot machines)

Both are legal and both are fair. Regardless which style of game is being used the house will always win in the long run.

The point I'm getting at is if I'm in Vegas or Atlantic City playing Video Poker, I know the proper strategy to apply in order to get the most action for my money. This information for the Video Poker player is easy to obtain. It became common and open knowledge for most, and willingly offered to anyone that requests it.

Mr. GrandMaster I never asked or care if you or anyone else for that matter agree with me or not.

All I want to fn know is which platform online casinos are using with these games, so when I play them I could apply the right strategy. Without this information it would behoove any professional Video Poker or Black Jack player to waste their time.

Online casinos refusing with relentless vigilance to come forward with this vital and what should be free and willing information, only leaves the players with their own conclusions.

Not all players are like GrandMaster or Kasino King who might know when their stars are aligned, or if they need to wear a necklaces with a horse shoe hanging from it to constantly win. When it comes to Video Poker and Black Jack, some of us just know how to play against the statistics and probabilities.

 

[4 of a kind]

You're saing that card distributions are not based on a random 52-card deck. You're saying that the output you see is based on an underlying slot machine and does not reflect true probabilities.

That is the same as saying that the game = rigged.

I've played many hundreds of thousands of hands of blackjack and VP online and my results are well within expectation.

Here you go with the rigged crap derailing accusations again. Can you please remove that word from your future posts in this thread? Maybe I could help by recommending you re-read my posts. It's easy to misinterpret points with a quick glance.

 

[hitobito2005]

So you're saying that online blackjack is actually a slot machine, but it still returns 99.5% - the same as truly random dealt blackjack?

But perhaps the strategy is different to reach the same RTP?

If this is what you mean, there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

If you mean that RTP is fiddled by reducing the RTP of the underlying slot machine, then

tr.v. rigged, rig·ging, rigs
[...]
5. To manipulate dishonestly for personal gain: rig a prizefight; rig stock prices.

 

[4 of a kind]

So you're saying that online blackjack is actually a slot machine, but it still returns 99.5% - the same as truly random dealt blackjack?

But perhaps the strategy is different to reach the same RTP?

If this is what you mean, there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

If you mean that RTP is fiddled by reducing the RTP of the underlying slot machine, then

tr.v. rigged, rig·ging, rigs
[...]
5. To manipulate dishonestly for personal gain: rig a prizefight; rig stock prices.

I don't care what anyone says about you Liquid...

"I love ya man"

 

[hitobito2005]

Or you could just reply to my post...

 

[GrandMaster]

Online casinos refusing with relentless vigilance to come forward with this vital and what should be free and willing information, only leaves the players with their own conclusions.

Not all players are like GrandMaster or Kasino King who might know when their stars are aligned, or if they need to wear a necklaces with a horse shoe hanging from it to constantly win. When it comes to Video Poker and Black Jack, some of us just know how to play against the statistics and probabilities.

Ecogra requires that representations of physical devices such as cards or dice have the same probabilities as the physical devices, so if you play at an ecogra approved casino, you will get a fair game or Andrew Beveridge will refund your money.

 

[nisosbar]

Ecogra requires that representations of physical devices such as cards or dice have the same probabilities as the physical devices

Do you have a cite for this?

 

[GrandMaster]

Do you have a cite for this?

Yes. Look at the eGAP requirements.

 

[4 of a kind]

Or you could just reply to my post...

I've tried in my earnest not to entertain your attempts in derailment, instead politely have tried several times to get you back on track and to focus on just the one question I would like answered. I also would like to add that I might have bit through my tongue while attempting to remain civil in responding to your obvious alternative motivations or agendas. If you don't mind me asking are you by any chance an online casino affiliate, or are you seriously disabled with some of your motor skills?

I don't care about my personal results, yours or anyone elses. I don't care about my asumptions, yours or anyone elses. I don't care about my conclusions, yours or anyone elses.

With one last attempt all I'm am asking is what style of software platform is being used for online Video Poker and Black Jack? Random 52 card draw with expected probabilities, or pre-determined house edge advantage. (slots)

Obviously, you don't have this answer and unless you could find out or know where I could find this information out for fact, maybe you should find another thread to derail.

 

[GrandMaster]

I have answered your question above for ecogra approved casinos.

 

[4 of a kind]

Ecogra requires that representations of physical devices such as cards or dice have the same probabilities as the physical devices, so if you play at an ecogra approved casino, you will get a fair game or Andrew Beveridge will refund your money.

Are the same probabilities as physical play being achieved using random draw or pre-determined house edge percentages?

Also what would Mr. Beveridge consider irrefutable evidence that would warrant a refund to a player? Would a player have to risk millions of dollars playing millions of hands to justify a refund? Anything less would be written off as inconclusive or the good ole bad luck line.

Apparently Mr. Beveridge's guarantee is also evading the question, knowing damn well it's virtually impossible to prove, and is just a statement hoping to convince players to continue playing these games with the wrong strategy's.

Once again:

What style of software platform is being used for online Video Poker and Black Jack? Random 52 card draw with expected probabilities, or pre-determined house edge advantage. (slots)

 

[hitobito2005]

I just want to clarify what you are saying:

What style of software platform is being used for online Video Poker and Black Jack? Random 52 card draw with expected probabilities, or pre-determined house edge advantage. (slots)

Suppose it's pre-determined (slot based), are you suggesting that the RTP is less than it should be on VP and BJ games?

I'm asking because if the games are slot machines but with the same return and variance as a true 52-card draw game, it would be difficult (impossible?) to illustrate a difference between the two without detailed analysis of card distributions. Either way, the results the player experiences would be the same.

If you're saying that the RTP is lowered however, it is easy to prove whether or not this is happening in only a few tens of thousand hands for BJ.

I don't think i'm derailing the thread here, just asking for clarification because otherwise your question can't be answered:

what would Mr. Beveridge consider irrefutable evidence that would warrant a refund to a player?

 

[4 of a kind]

No Liquid I'm not implying or suggesting anything one way or the other.

If only just for me, by knowing which platform was being used up front, I would approach the games with different money management and gaming strategy.

This information should be available for anyone that asks. That's it, nothing else. That's all I want to know. I don't care if random draw is 98% and they are using pre-determined house edge (slot versions) set at 100% even better then random.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW.....

 

[GrandMaster]

What style of software platform is being used for online Video Poker and Black Jack? Random 52 card draw with expected probabilities, or pre-determined house edge advantage. (slots)

Read what I wrote.

 

[4 of a kind]

Ecogra requires that representations of physical devices such as cards or dice have the same probabilities as the physical devices, so if you play at an ecogra approved casino, you will get a fair game or Andrew Beveridge will refund your money.

Read what I wrote.

I did read what you wrote. I'm very happy for Ecogra casino customers.

Now back to my question???