LOCK redeemed themselves

[tat00]

ok i know theres other threads out there for lock about payment issues.
well im here to tell you they have reddemed themselves in my opinion.

i cashed out 3k during the time lock had some issues i received half with an email explaining that i will get other half a week from that well appearently i received it 3 days earlier . i been playing at lock now since it opened and i have had nothing but great customer service i have gotten to know all the reps (very nice ) angelina my fav..

i really hope they get back to the accredited casino soon . out of all casinos my favorites withg payout is
1.lock
2.cherry red
3.club world casinos

i hope you all agree.

p.s i have another 800 pending

thanks

 

[maphesto]

@tat00:

Good that you have recieved your money.

To me, it seems like they choose who to pay and who they don't pay.

They don't have enough to pay everyone they owe money, they might choose to pay the ones they believe will return and deposit.

If I was Pulver and read your post I would at least count to ten before I trashed my computer.

 

[tat00]

well im just giving you all my experiences for some reason im winning a lot at lock and cherry red and i wanted to give kudos of the friendly service and payout . for a non accredited casino they at least emailed me and let me know what is happening. i was impressed and wanted to share hoping they will come back as accredited

 

[Pulver]

Congratulations on getting paid. I just wish that Lock would send me an email (or answer my emails for that matter) on when I will get paid, and follow up on their promises and actually pay me.

Let's go Padres!

 

[maphesto]

well im just giving you all my experiences for some reason im winning a lot at lock and cherry red and i wanted to give kudos of the friendly service and payout . for a non accredited casino they at least emailed me and let me know what is happening. i was impressed and wanted to share hoping they will come back as accredited

I think we all wants to know when players with withdrawals at Lock these times receives their money.
I hope that everyone receives their money. And I also hope that they would rise from their financial crisis and once again become a reputable casino.

To pay you and everyone else is the second step. First step is to answer Pulver's emails. They can email you.

EDIT: Good to see that you counted to ten Pulver!

 

[Pulver]

Believe me, I have counted to a million several times.

 

[Tengil]

I would probably have hired a biker gang already

 

[takethemoney]

I don't feel paying one player constitutes complete redemption. Let's see what they do over time.

 

[greasemonkey]

I agree with takethemoney. Also, they still have unresolved issues with confiscating players winnings under suspicion of "fraud" without having definitive proof. Why would anyone play there right now? You would have a better chance at the virtual group probably

 

[The Dude]

... Also, they still have unresolved issues with confiscating players winnings under suspicion of "fraud" without having definitive proof. Why would anyone play there right now? You would have a better chance at the virtual group probably

Eh? So where did this come from? Care to elaborate?

 

[all4greed]

I wouldn't use the word redeemed in your case but it's good to know they are paying some people. Personally, I won't play there until the get their act together and all payouts are done.

 

[jelsmith]

Congratulations on getting paid. I just wish that Lock would send me an email (or answer my emails for that matter) on when I will get paid, and follow up on their promises and actually pay me.

Let's go Padres!

I just dont get how they are paying whomever THEY choose...I personally think Pulver should be paid before anyone else gets a dime...JMO....I know if it were me sitting on the other side of this I would be SICK hearing others saying "oh yay locks great they paid me" Sorry but to me no matter how you slice it...PULVER needs his $$$ before they pay out to anyone who is due a withdraw after his cashout date. PERIOD! They are nickel and diming paying out players who are coming back to the trough....and the trough is filled with SEWAGE!

 

[tat00]

pulver how much is owed to u may i ask? u can pm me. and when did u ask for withdrawal .?

has locknload rep here answered u?

 

[slafs]

Eh? So where did this come from? Care to elaborate?

You answered this thread right after this one, so I guess it might just be the one you both were thinking about:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/what-to-do-for-help-against-lock.38391/

I tried to check out the CDS webpage, but couldn't even find Lock on their list of casinos. Could be a reason why we never heard back from the player. Another could be that he in fact was the fraud Lock made him out to be.

 

[Mavin1]

I just dont get how they are paying whomever THEY choose...I personally think Pulver should be paid before anyone else gets a dime...JMO....I know if it were me sitting on the other side of this I would be SICK hearing others saying "oh yay locks great they paid me" Sorry but to me no matter how you slice it...PULVER needs his $$$ before they pay out to anyone who is due a withdraw after his cashout date. PERIOD! They are nickel and diming paying out players who are coming back to the trough....and the trough is filled with SEWAGE!

Totally agree, no one likes others cutting in line ahead of them. And stating how so and so got paid is like rubbing salt into the wound of the one that was first in line.

 

[Rusty]

Good stuff tat00 and I hope you get the rest soon but I feel a new thread praising the Casino for paying some players some money is not ideal and a little premature as it detracts from the original thread.
I am not saying you should not post your good news, you should, but I feel it would of been better received if posted in the original thread.

Good luck to others who are still owed and I hope you are right about their troubles being behind them Tat00.

 

[greasemonkey]

You answered this thread right after this one, so I guess it might just be the one you both were thinking about:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/what-to-do-for-help-against-lock.38391/

I tried to check out the CDS webpage, but couldn't even find Lock on their list of casinos. Could be a reason why we never heard back from the player. Another could be that he in fact was the fraud Lock made him out to be.

Exactly this thread is what I was referring to.

 

[diamondale]

Exactly this thread is what I was referring to.

It might be one payout good for you tATT Your one of the lucky ones but there so much in the hole i dont think there going to come out smelling like a rose,They owe to many players and dont have the funds to pay to bad they were good at the beginning now there ship has sunk.

 

[tat00]

where does lock poker fit into all this i see so many players there with lots of money

 

[Tengil]

where does lock poker fit into all this i see so many players there with lots of money

Having a big roll at a poker room isnt the same as having the money in your bank account as players have experienced on a number of occasions. And unless they are Lock exclusive tables the players could aswell be players from other Merge rooms.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

I sure hope Pulver and others were paid in full today.

Affys>players or in due course just asked more nicely.

 

[Tengil]

And they "only" owe Pulver 16100$. Wrote only as if the owners/casino were serious they would have coughed up with the sum in no time.

It seems they dont want to pay him. They dont even communicate with him. In the pit with them!

Edit: I genuinely tought they had some problems that werent caused by them, processor problems and the recent poker move to Merge. But the Pulver "case" has proved that I was wrong.

 

[hakapuku]

Ouh what a great casino! They pay to some of the winners- can you imagine this?!

 

[maphesto]

I sure hope Pulver and others were paid in full today.

Affys>players or in due course just asked more nicely.

That "nicely" thing is probably not involved.

My guess is that players already have left the ship and then the affiliates have no commission.

But still, put Lock in the rogue pit!

A couple of Rivals who are much better with payments were put there but why not Lock?

Are there any reasons for that?

 

[NASHVEGAS]

That "nicely" thing is probably not involved.

LOL, maphesto, you have been around long enough to recognize (and appreciate,yes) Nash speak. Nevertheless, it was simply "tongue in mouth"

 

[maphesto]

LOL, maphesto, you have been around long enough to recognize (and appreciate,yes) Nash speak. Nevertheless, it was simply "tongue in mouth"

Yes! I recognize and appreciate Nash speak.

 

[takethemoney]

It looks like the PR dept. is no longer communicating either.

 

[Rusty]

Mods.
Shouldn't this thread be merged with the other Lock thread since there is plenty of crossover, some players have still not been paid and those that just read the thread titles could be forgiven for thinking the forum is giving a Green light for Lock.

 

[hitobito2005]

As of now, I have neither been paid my $2000 (pending since 8th June) nor been communicated with.

 

[jelsmith]

ROGUE PIT time......I cant believe they are not EVEN communicating with players owed money. I think this has drug on long enough....I see no difference in them compared to Virtual....they pay a few to stay in business but overall players are not being paid and nobodys talking. Max and Bryan are they even communicating with you still at this point?

 

[AudiManinBoro]

I agree. If the stories about picking and choosing who they pay are true, this casino should take its rightful place in the pit.

 

[The Dude]

... Max and Bryan are they even communicating with you still at this point?

They've been responsive anytime I've PMd them on the status of player payments. The last time I was in touch with them was on Tuesday concerning Pulver's payments. They hope to have his payments completed in 3-6 weeks.

 

[maphesto]

I really hope that Pulver receives ALL his money before affiliates get their next monthly payment.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

I really hope that Pulver receives ALL his money before affiliates get their next monthly payment.

as well as Liquuid and all other players. The fact that any media buys, affiliates et al would be paid before these players whom are subject to reversing is appalling. Some of these affiliates......................., well lets just call it a conflict of interest. G_d told me so!!

 

[jelsmith]

They've been responsive anytime I've PMd them on the status of player payments. The last time I was in touch with them was on Tuesday concerning Pulver's payments. They hope to have his payments completed in 3-6 weeks.

Well at least they speak to you. Why are they not communicating with players? Ive seen several on the the different Lock threads, where players have been emailing CS and PM'ing the rep here and are going several weeks with no response at all.

I agree with Nash why are the affys getting $ and the players are still sitting in limbo. I hope the players with stalled payments, (Pulver and Liq) off the top of my head, do not go anywhere near Lock again. I wouldnt trust them for all the tea in China.

 

[Tengil]

as well as Liquuid and all other players. The fact that any media buys, affiliates et al would be paid before these players whom are subject to reversing is appalling. Some of these affiliates......................., well lets just call it a conflict of interest. G_d told me so!!

Its not appalling, its industry standard backed up by 99% of the affiliate army.

 

[The Dude]

Its not appalling, its industry standard backed up by 99% of the affiliate army.

ha ha - good one - affiliate army

I've been really entrenched in some major technical issues we've had with the server for the past two days, so my apologies for not being able to get involved in this (and a handful of other current threads), but I really wanted to address this matter.

I would hope that as payments are concerned - people (read players AND advertisers) are paid in equal terms. But I'm not privy to the mechanics behind the scenes - I don't have a clue if they have a preference of who or what to pay first. I think it would be unfair to make assumptions that affys get the checks first while players have to wait because we just don't know.

Correct me if I'm wrong, don't most affys with RTG accounts get paid via a player account? If this is correct then the message at AGD may merely reflect that the payment hit the casino account, it doesn't necessarily mean that they have cash in the bank. Just a thought.

 

[Pulver]

ha ha - good one - affiliate army

I've been really entrenched in some major technical issues we've had with the server for the past two days, so my apologies for not being able to get involved in this (and a handful of other current threads), but I really wanted to address this matter.

I would hope that as payments are concerned - people (read players AND advertisers) are paid in equal terms. But I'm not privy to the mechanics behind the scenes - I don't have a clue if they have a preference of who or what to pay first. I think it would be unfair to make assumptions that affys get the checks first while players have to wait because we just don't know.

Correct me if I'm wrong, don't most affys with RTG accounts get paid via a player account? If this is correct then the message at AGD may merely reflect that the payment hit the casino account, it doesn't necessarily mean that they have cash in the bank. Just a thought.

From the front page of AGD

Lock Casino Affiliate: paid by Neteller on Jul 21 2010

I am more than happy to provide Lock with my Neteller account number if that helps. I sent the payment department an email on July 16, and then another one on July 19, asking nicely and polite if there were any news on the missing wiretransfer and when I would receive my next payment. No reply.

I then sent the CM rep a PM asking what the story with the "missing" wire was and when I would receive the next payment. She did not give any information about the wiretransfer, but that she would have more information on thursday on when the next payment was due. I have not heard anything back, nor received any money.

 

[jelsmith]

From the front page of AGD




I am more than happy to provide Lock with my Neteller account number if that helps. I sent the payment department an email on July 16, and then another one on July 19, asking nicely and polite if there were any news on the missing wiretransfer and when I would receive my next payment. No reply.

I then sent the CM rep a PM asking what the story with the "missing" wire was and when I would receive the next payment. She did not give any information about the wiretransfer, but that she would have more information on thursday on when the next payment was due. I have not heard anything back, nor received any money.

This is so disgusting....said before and ill say it again ROGUE PIT time!

 

[tat00]

iif they say they going to pay i have a feeling they will pay - i know its a wait and all but i think it will be ok . give em a chance?

 

[vinylweatherman]

From the front page of AGD




I am more than happy to provide Lock with my Neteller account number if that helps. I sent the payment department an email on July 16, and then another one on July 19, asking nicely and polite if there were any news on the missing wiretransfer and when I would receive my next payment. No reply.

I then sent the CM rep a PM asking what the story with the "missing" wire was and when I would receive the next payment. She did not give any information about the wiretransfer, but that she would have more information on thursday on when the next payment was due. I have not heard anything back, nor received any money.

They told the Meister "3-6 weeks", so why can they not tell YOU this

They are now supposedly paying $3000 per week under the new terms, so they should be honouring this.


liquuid_fusion

As of now, I have neither been paid my $2000 (pending since 8th June) nor been communicated with.

Why has nothing happened about this payment. They are supposed to be over the problems, so this $2000 should have come along by now, and in a single instalment.

Pulver's will take 6 weeks at the new rate of $3000 per week, BUT he has ALREADY had many weeks without payment, so this should be BACKDATED, making not only $3000 for the week, but $3000 for all previous weeks where they have failed to make a payment.

It looks rather like they are downplaying their CURRENT problems, and they are STILL struggling to pay players. This is by no means over, and will not be considered so until the "headline" cases are resolved.

In 6 weeks time, we should have heard that Pulver has received full payment, if not, things are worse than they are saying.

 

[maphesto]

iif they say they going to pay i have a feeling they will pay - i know its a wait and all but i think it will be ok . give em a chance?

Yes, I will take this as polite as I can. To me "a" chance has passed.

They have already come up with a payment plan even though Pulver from the beginning thought he would receive the whole amount instantly.

Pulver is promised a certain amount/week.

Everytime/week goes by without Pulver receives 3000$ "a" chance is gone.

Everytime they avoid to answer Pulvers polite questions "a" chance is gone..

And when affiliates gets their monthly payments..ant Pulver not...

I will not continue my examples. You get it!

 

[jelsmith]

Yes, I will take this as polite as I can. To me "a" chance has passed.

They have already come up with a payment plan even though Pulver from the beginning thought he would receive the whole amount instantly.

Pulver is promised a certain amount/week.

Everytime/week goes by without Pulver receives 3000$ "a" chance is gone.

Everytime they avoid to answer Pulvers polite questions "a" chance is gone..

And when affiliates gets their monthly payments..ant Pulver not...

I will not continue my examples. You get it!

Couldnt have said it better! I think they are lying personally and its much much worse than they are letting anyone including Max and Bryan know. They are stringing along players week after week paying a few here and there and not large winners.....they are biding time is exactly what I think they are doing. I think its only a matter of time before they just close up shop and disappear leaving everyone owed money hanging...If the rep here is refusing to respond to pms from players whats that tell ya?

 

[takethemoney]

I think they are close to closing shop and doing a runner, as well. To those who think otherwise, I hope I don't have to later say told you so. I think they are ready to be rogued by now.

 

[all4greed]

I think they are close to closing shop and doing a runner, as well. To those who think otherwise, I hope I don't have to later say told you so. I think they are ready to be rogued by now.

Late or no payments and lack of communication = HUGE WARNING SIGN!!!

Hopefully, those owed will get paid...

 

[jetset]

This situation is truly worrying, and has all the hallmarks of a coming disaster....for the owed players.

Affiliate payments aside for the moment, the other factors here - overlong delays, failure to pay monthly instalments as promised and bad communications are all red flags that often suggest serious financial difficulties.

I have to wonder how much business Lock has lost through this ongoing and widespread bad publicity, which must be convincing many players to stay the hell away from the place.

Perhaps they are relying on new and inexperienced blood to keep going.

 

[hitobito2005]

They should close off the casino to new deposits while they sort out the "processing problems". It's unbelievable that upon logging in you see lots of generous promotions and would have no idea what trouble you will have being paid (if at all).

I had a reply to my PM on the 20th, from locknload saying they'd look into my withdrawal that day, but have not yet heard back from them.

 

[Deeplay]

Thing is we have seen this kind of thing before. I remember Buzzluck casino when it started and all the hype Super Casino etc , could never work out why it was called a super casino or words to that effect apart from the fact it had a live chat show. But that aside they started great and within around a year they were out. Now again we see the same tell tale signs with another casino that was given alot of exposure to start with. Im not bashing CM or his team they do a great job here, but maybe a much longer period is needed before a casino even gets close to the AC list. Alot of people only joined lock as it was given the status of AC and then only what seems like a few months later we hit payout delays etc. And some players now hurting on this. If they want to stay in this business they need to pay ALL funds that are owed NOW! No delays.

I have learned 1 thing the past few months, casinos offering insane bonus offers are usually the ones that sooner or later hit the sand. If your a rock solid casino with large happy player database then 200 400 or 600% bonus offers with all kinds of small print strings attached n max cashouts huge play throughs are not needed.

Lock offers some at first glance really superb bonuses, but dig a bit deeper and you see just how bad alot of these offers are. Alot of people who dont read forums like this will jump at that, only to get stung later if they try to cashout at this time, or get confused with huge playthroughs or max cashouts. I wont go near lockcasino ever. Hope all those owed their winnings get paid ASAP!

 

[Pulver]

What I simply don't understand by the whole situation is:

1. Lock claims that their processor ran away with all their money.
- What kind of operation leaves all their money with one processor? If I was running a casino operation I would leave as little money as possible with payment processors, and as much money as possible, at all times, in "safe" bank accounts.

2. Lock seems like they had alot going for them. Slick design on their site, and, in the beginning, good livechat\support, and generally they looked decent. Having all this in mind, why havent their backers uploaded more money to enable them to return to "business as usual"? Just seems insane to me to invest so much money in a casino, and then bail out when the operation\reputation can be saved with as little as $30-50$k.

3. Why do they keep lying to me? Why do they not respond to my emails? Why are they not paying me?

 

[takethemoney]

What I simply don't understand by the whole situation is:

1. Lock claims that their processor ran away with all their money.
- What kind of operation leaves all their money with one processor? If I was running a casino operation I would leave as little money as possible with payment processors, and as much money as possible, at all times, in "safe" bank accounts.

2. Lock seems like they had alot going for them. Slick design on their site, and, in the beginning, good livechat\support, and generally they looked decent. Having all this in mind, why havent their backers uploaded more money to enable them to return to "business as usual"? Just seems insane to me to invest so much money in a casino, and then bail out when the operation\reputation can be saved with as little as $30-50$k.

3. Why do they keep lying to me? Why do they not respond to my emails? Why are they not paying me?

Because it's time to stick a fork in them. They're done. There is nothing to indicate otherwise and this continued avoidance of payments and communication makes it look like there is nothing left there to bank on. There is no excuse and no way to explain this away. I don't think they were truthful with Max and Bryan and I don't believe for a minute that an operator with half a brain would keep all their money in one basket. The processor excuse is wearing thin.