Vegas Towers Bonus Discussion (Split)

[KasinoKing]

Vegas towers member of the accredited fortune lounge group offers a 50 dollar no W/R no restrictions bonus. Seeing them fairies yet?

Ah ok so you're refering to loyalty bonuses rather than signup bonuses. Sorry - I assumed from the newbies comment you were refering to sign up bonuses

No, it is a sign-up bonus; $50 match, no WR.
However, the bonus is Phantom!
(I'm assuming it's still current - I haven't updated the MG2 page on my website for over a year! )
{Edit} Just checked - they are still doing it!

KK

[Simmo!]

Vegas towers member of the accredited fortune lounge group offers a 50 dollar no W/R no restrictions bonus. Seeing them fairies yet?

However, the bonus is Phantom!

Phantom is when the bonus gets removed on cashout, right?

Wow. So no restrictions and no WR! So you sign up, bang in $50, ask for $50, play some red/black roulette bets of BJ or something, and cashout with the $50 removed? No catch? I'm surprised.

[rouletteguy]

In response to the posts a way's back Vegas towers offers the 50 dollar match no wagering requirement no restrictions to all new players

[KasinoKing]

Phantom is when the bonus gets removed on cashout, right?

Wow. So no restrictions and no WR! So you sign up, bang in $50, ask for $50, play some red/black roulette bets of BJ or something, and cashout with the $50 removed? No catch? I'm surprised.

Not quite that simple - Fortune Lounge aren't that daft!

Rule 26:
The Casino reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings for irregular play. ‘Irregular play’ includes but is not limited to any one or more of the following types of play:
1) Placing single bets equal to or in excess of 30% or more of the value of the bonus credited to the account prior to the play-through requirement for that bonus having been met;
2) Using the double-up feature to increase bet values;
3) Even money bets on Sic Bo, Craps, Baccarat and Roulette.

Still a great bonus IMHO though!
(Mind you, if there is "no playthrough" how could they apply term #1...?)

KK

[Simmo!]

Not quite that simple - Fortune Lounge aren't that daft!

Rule 26:
The Casino reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings for irregular play. ‘Irregular play’ includes but is not limited to any one or more of the following types of play:
1) Placing single bets equal to or in excess of 30% or more of the value of the bonus credited to the account prior to the play-through requirement for that bonus having been met;
2) Using the double-up feature to increase bet values;
3) Even money bets on Sic Bo, Craps, Baccarat and Roulette.

Still a great bonus IMHO though!
(Mind you, if there is "no playthrough" how could they apply term #1...?)

KK

OK so there are restrictions - I can see the fairies again LOL. Although they don't seem too bad considering what bonuses are like these days.

[winbig]

Irregular play’ includes but is not limited to any one or more of the following types of play:
1) Placing single bets equal to or in excess of 30% or more of the value of the bonus credited to the account prior to the play-through requirement for that bonus having been met;
2) Using the double-up feature to increase bet values;
3) Even money bets on Sic Bo, Craps, Baccarat and Roulette.

Couldn't this be considered a FU clause? That term is way too ambiguous.

Notice they say "....but is not limited to..." So, are we supposed to be mind readers? What if they consider playing VP @ 100% perfect strategy to be irregular play? Same goes for Blackjack; or any other game where some strategic decisions are involved...and also, any hand in BJ that doesn't result in a surrender, doubling up, a natural blackjack or splitting pairs could be considered an "even money bet."

[felicie]

OK so there are restrictions - I can see the fairies again LOL. Although they don't seem too bad considering what bonuses are like these days.

Boy aint that the truth.

[Marie2473]

I actually played this and I was lucky to win, the bonus was removed, but for me this was a great bonus =)

[vinylweatherman]

Not quite that simple - Fortune Lounge aren't that daft!

Rule 26:
The Casino reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings for irregular play. ‘Irregular play’ includes but is not limited to any one or more of the following types of play:
1) Placing single bets equal to or in excess of 30% or more of the value of the bonus credited to the account prior to the play-through requirement for that bonus having been met;
2) Using the double-up feature to increase bet values;
3) Even money bets on Sic Bo, Craps, Baccarat and Roulette.

Still a great bonus IMHO though!
(Mind you, if there is "no playthrough" how could they apply term #1...?)

KK

I can see fairies too, 26 of them to be precise, and I haven't even looked in the bushes.

26 separate clauses, some with sub-clauses (3 in the case of rule 26), seems rather complicated. Players will need a lawyer as a matter of routine if this carries on, and these terms are NOT "irrelevant" by any means, since even minor violations can prove VERY costly indeed!

The best solution would be to scrap many of these rules, and have software based enforcement of policies, so players simply CANNOT "cross the line", intentionally or otherwise. Programmers seem unable to manage this, yet manage to release all these complicated new games, and endless lobby updates (or downgrades to some players). It seems casinos LIKE having software that lets players break the rules, since they can then apply penalties. Software enforcement would give casinos NO way to void winnings due to certain playing patterns.

Whilst players should always read the terms, surely casinos should pitch these terms to the intellectual abilities of their PLAYERS, rather than their LAWYERS.

[Simmo!]

The best solution would be to scrap many of these rules, and have software based enforcement of policies, so players simply CANNOT "cross the line", intentionally or otherwise.

That make SOOO much sense