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    Slot Variance

    Hi,

    Does anyone have a list of MG slots and their variance?

    I'm not talking exact figures or anything. I found a really old list at slotbeaters, but nothing here.

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    I don´t think there is a better or newer list than that one at Slotbeaters. I often use that site to look for info. Kasinoking maybe can update the list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmartinusa View Post
    Hi,

    Does anyone have a list of MG slots and their variance?

    I'm not talking exact figures or anything. I found a really old list at slotbeaters, but nothing here.

    Kevin
    slotjunkies.info (covers games up to early 2009) or slotjunkies.net for more recent ones.


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    Simmo, I have looked at slotjunkies.net and I wonder where the list is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maphesto View Post
    Simmo, I have looked at slotjunkies.net and I wonder where the list is.
    Maybe here?
    http://www.slotjunkies.net/online-slots/microgaming/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlotMonster View Post
    I was looking for a list, now I see that I have to click on each slot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maphesto View Post
    I don´t think there is a better or newer list than that one at Slotbeaters. I often use that site to look for info.
    Kasinoking maybe can update the list?
    Sorry, it's hard be be as enthusiastic about that site as I used to be, due to very low visitor numbers (when I started it I thought that MASSES of players would want to see detailed slot info - but it looks like I was wrong... )

    Just a minor disclaimer here; Slot variance is not something which can be worked out by simple maths - the ratings given on SlotBeaters (Low, Medium or High) is just my personal opinion only, based on the play I have done on the slots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maphesto View Post
    I was looking for a list, now I see that I have to click on each slot...
    As KK says there is no easy way to determine variance without knowing that.

    a) The RTP of the slot remains unchanged.
    b) The reel maps are known and remain unchanged.
    c) The paytable remains constant.
    d) The bonus round pick/award weighting is known and advertised.
    e) The reels stop positions are not weighted at any time
    f) Free spins reel maps are known and remain unchanged
    g) Free spins are independent and A,B,C,D,E,F and indeed G all apply.

    Assuming a fair RNG that would represent a truly fair slot where you could make a definitive statement on variance and I can assure you No software I am aware of have all of the above boxes ticked but I should add not necessarily for nefarious reasons. For 5 reel slots with free spin rounds and multipliers the Mathematics becomes very involved and natural variance without control is a turn off for Casinos and indeed some designers.
    If any software provider believes they meet all the above criteria then please let myself and the forum know.
    There are places that may offer the above but the free spins do not have multipliers and these slots are very, very low variance. You also pay a "tax" on any winnings. They may also have set lines and set stake which is a fair way of maintaining some control on variance. (having the ability to change stake and lines dramatically every spin greatly effects on variance)

    The Casino will make money with such a slot with A to G and estimated 97% RTP but they could easily lose money in the short to medium term. Faced with that choice or a slot with checks and controls where the variance and RTP can be altered at any time and guess which they go for?
    Even licensed slots in your local casino do not have the checks of A to G but at least in properly regulated jurisdictions you will know the RTP.

    Given all that take any variance charts with a pinch of salt even though there are certainly games with different variance out there.

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