Segregation Online

[4 of a kind]

I’m not much of a computer wiz, and pretty much just understand the basic rules of how things happen online. Although showed once I still don’t remember or know how to take a screen shot and get it some place else.

Of course no reputable software provider will respond to this question, so I’m counting on the technically advised people here.

1) Is it possible for online casinos to have software in place that could segregate RTP by countries?
2) Are their multiple servers per site or just one?
3) If someone was playing at a certain casino from London, and I was playing the same casino from the U.S.A., are we connected to the same server?
4) Would it matter at all how many different servers could be used if the software is programmed to segregate RTP based on ones ip address that identifies the country the player is playing from?

Just wondering if this is a way for online casinos to market themselves better. If land based casinos are trying to improve their $5.00 slot play action, they will openly advertise better RTP’s then the rest for the $5.00 dollar machines. The random visitor to these casinos wouldn’t even know about that or care, but the serious slot players are well aware of land based casino RTP’s and will follow the best offers.

So let’s say an online casino feels that Australia is lagging in customers. Can they jolt the RTP just for that country, and blitz the players there with promotions in an attempt to gain new customers. Serious players would of course notice the difference in play from let’s say a 99% RTP when compared to a 90% RTP. The casino of course recognizes its temporary lose, but just writes it off has advertisement costs. Once they reach their goal of new customers from that country, they then again return the RTP to a more normal return.

We know they can stop U.S.A. players from downloading the new games if they so desire. If they think U.S.A. players and some other countries are becoming too much of a risk with all that’s going on with the laws, (similar to the recent Master Charge bullshit which could lead to big losses for some online casinos.) When processors start screwing casinos from certain countries, that can't be a good thing. Can they isolate our RTP and only then have to deal with a minimum of cash-outs which would lower their risk? I know if you hit a jackpot there's nothing they could do about it, but lower RTP's would certainly slow down the cash outs to high risk countries.

Just curious about this type of stuff, and just wondering if in fact it could be done. Not that it is.

[GGW Laurie]

I often wondered that myself, take for example the player that won not 1 RJ 's but 5 in what was it, a week, all off a 30.00 deposit? I think that was something short of a miracle and im very happy for the player who was from Australia if i recall right.

Im not sure if they can set it higher or lower it, but the example above has to make those of us that have played there alot, go hmmm or really big believers in that shady lady luck, beotch..............laurie

[silcnlayc]

lauriejim:take for example the player that won not 1 RJ 's but 5 in what was it, a week, but the example above has to make those of us that have played there alot, go humm

I am going for the hmmm factor since I cannot bring myself to believe that one person playing, can win 5 randoms in a row at the same casino when you have hundreds of others playing there also in different denominations vying for the same randoms...

As it was said, the person must have hit the right spin at the right time against hundreds of other players and did this 5 times in a row at the same place? I think not...without some help..again, this is just my opinion and gut feeling....since they say it is next to impossible to hit the lottery twice but it can happen but to hit it 5 times back to back and clean a casino out of all the jackpots..I think not..

Just my opinion again...take it any way you will, but somewhere a little help was given there....no casino is infallable...I cannot prove it...so as the old saying says goes... if it feels wrong...

I have also noticed NO-ONE will talk about it...why??? I have asked about the odds of this happening and I have gotten the silent treatment from everyone..is this because it is Inetbet? What is it that no one will speak their minds about this occurance? I am NOT the only one thinking this...I know it...

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[love2winalot]

Hiya: Here is a real example. I downloaded Betvoyager, "to play multiball roulette" here in Las Vegas. I opened a real $ account. On their web site they say the same thing everyone else says, "the PLAYER is responsible to follow the laws of their own country". This is a way to let players in the USA play, but at the same time not condone them playing.

So, i have my Betvoyager account. I log in, and can play the Flash Demo mode. But can not play the, "play for free" mode. I can go to Banking, but there are no options available there for American players.

So, I have my brotherinlaw, in the philippins, download it. I send him money. He logs in, and deposits the money. Via use of Skype, i can tell him what to bet. hehehe. I went to PI in December. I was able to Log in to both My American Account, and his PI account. I played there, on his account.

I return to America in Jan. I Log in to His account, "But I am Unable to play it from America"...... All you get is a, "Blank" page. I asuume this is to stop someone from doing what i tried to do. Otherwise, we could all go to Mexico, open accounts at Casino's that bann American players, Return to the US, and be set......Weeeeee

Also, this is a case where Online Casino's treat Perception as Reality. There are a Lot of Casino's that either Bann any bonuses from being taken, or just outright bann the entire country, based on percieved Bonus Abuse. This would be a sort of Segreation.

Online Casinos are not the only ones to do this. A couple years ago, the game, Ultima Online, had a special promotion, "for players on the Japan servers". When the other players, on the American, & European servers found out about it, they cried FOUL at the top of their lungs......

Doing things like this is easy, as it is not publisied. No one knows, "as example" that BOA charges a $8 monthly fee for checking accounts in the USA, but does not charge this fee at Its branches in Asia.

or, better yet, When is the last time you ordered BEER, as your drink, at KFC, or Mcdonalds in America? Go to Korea, or the Philippines, and it is all the beer you can drink..........

[Pinababy69]

I have also noticed NO-ONE will talk about it...why??? I have asked about the odds of this happening and I have gotten the silent treatment from everyone..is this because it is Inetbet? What is it that no one will speak their minds about this occurance? I am NOT the only one thinking this...I know it...

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I was just extremely happy for the player and never really gave it a second thought...beyond thinking how lucky she was. As to it being at Inetbet....makes no difference to me. She could have hit it at Cirrus or Coolcat, and I doubt I would have questioned it either (if I knew about it I mean).

You either trust the software or you don't. And you either believe in random or you don't. Random to me is just that....random. Been playing going on ten years, and I've never hit a RJ either. I'm not sure when randoms were introduced...maybe 7 or 8 years ago? Mind you, I don't play everyday..more like maybe once a week, and very small bets. So I doubt I will ever hit one. Yet there are other people who have hit them numerous times over the years. The only difference with this player is that she hit them all in a short time span. I think that Laurie has hit at least five, maybe more. Nashvegas...didn't he hit a few within a week or something? It happens.

Again, only my opinion...but it comes down to trust. It's really got nothing to do with Inetbet...but with RTG. If you don't believe their software is random, and don't think you're getting a fair shake...then you would naturally be suspicious of any event like that happening, no matter the casino. If you do trust them (as I do)..then it's just "one of those things".

[GGW Laurie]

I was just extremely happy for the player and never really gave it a second thought...beyond thinking how lucky she was. As to it being at Inetbet....makes no difference to me. She could have hit it at Cirrus or Coolcat, and I doubt I would have questioned it either (if I knew about it I mean).

You either trust the software or you don't. And you either believe in random or you don't. Random to me is just that....random. Been playing going on ten years, and I've never hit a RJ either. I'm not sure when randoms were introduced...maybe 7 or 8 years ago? Mind you, I don't play everyday..more like maybe once a week, and very small bets. So I doubt I will ever hit one. Yet there are other people who have hit them numerous times over the years. The only difference with this player is that she hit them all in a short time span. I think that Laurie has hit at least five, maybe more. Nashvegas...didn't he hit a few within a week or something? It happens.

Again, only my opinion...but it comes down to trust. It's really got nothing to do with Inetbet...but with RTG. If you don't believe their software is random, and don't think you're getting a fair shake...then you would naturally be suspicious of any event like that happening, no matter the casino. If you do trust them (as I do)..then it's just "one of those things".

Oh i trust Inetbet for sure, if i didnt ,i darn sure wouldnt be wasting my time or money there, but come on Pina, even you had to think 5 in one week was just mind blowing, off a single 30.00 deposit, whats the odds or do you beleive it was just pure out and out luck

I have hit 2 at Inetbet when i first started playing there and 2 at Jackpot Capital and one at Slots Oasis, so yes i know the feeling of hitting a RJ, thats why 5 in one week on one small deposit is nothing but short of a miracle.

When Nash hit his, he was betting pretty big bets if i recall right and had a nice bank roll built up, Nash imo isnt a 30.00 depositor..................laurie

[NASHVEGAS]

Nashvegas...didn't he hit a few within a week or something?.

5 in less than a month of which 3 were within 12 hours. I was not chasing them either.

EDIT:I only had been playing RTG's somewhat consistently for 2 months or less while the above occurred.

[NASHVEGAS]

When Nash hit his, he was betting pretty big bets if i recall right and had a nice bank roll built up

Correct

Nash imo isnt a 30.00 depositor..................laurie

No but I was treated like one. Furthermore, I am now a $zero$ depositor and when MC and VISA begins backcharging all the casinos, oops I mean appliance, flooring stores, spas, etc, as I have been told from a reliable source, I will not be a party all alone at CM or hell maybe I will be banned for not taking one for the Gipper!!

[rockycatt]

Hiya: Here is a real example. I downloaded Betvoyager, "to play multiball roulette" here in Las Vegas. I opened a real $ account. On their web site they say the same thing everyone else says, "the PLAYER is responsible to follow the laws of their own country". This is a way to let players in the USA play, but at the same time not condone them playing.

So, i have my Betvoyager account. I log in, and can play the Flash Demo mode. But can not play the, "play for free" mode. I can go to Banking, but there are no options available there for American players.

So, I have my brother inlaw, in the philippines, download it. I send him money. He logs in, and deposits the money. Via use of Skype, i can tell him what to bet. hehehe. I went to PI in December. I was able to Log in to both My American Account, and his PI account. I played there, on his account.

I return to America in Jan. I Log in to His account, "But I am Unable to play it from America"...... All you get is a, "Blank" page. I assume this is to stop someone from doing what i tried to do. Otherwise, we could all go to Mexico, open accounts at Casino's that bann American players, Return to the US, and be set......Weeeeee

Also, this is a case where Online Casino's treat Perception as Reality. There are a Lot of Casino's that either Bann any bonuses from being taken, or just outright ban the entire country, based on perceived Bonus Abuse. This would be a sort of Segregation.

Online Casinos are not the only ones to do this. A couple years ago, the game, Ultima Online, had a special promotion, "for players on the Japan servers". When the other players, on the American, & European servers found out about it, they cried FOUL at the top of their lungs......

Doing things like this is easy, as it is not publisied. No one knows, "as example" that BOA charges a $8 monthly fee for checking accounts in the USA, but does not charge this fee at Its branches in Asia.

or, better yet, When is the last time you ordered BEER, as your drink, at KFC, or Mcdonalds in America? Go to Korea, or the Philippines, and it is all the beer you can drink..........

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[jod5413]

No but I was treated like one. Furthermore, I am now a $zero$ depositor and when MC and VISA begins backcharging all the casinos, oops I mean appliance, flooring stores, spas, etc, as I have been told from a reliable source, I will not be a party all alone at CM or hell maybe I will be banned for not taking one for the Gipper!!

Dang it, Nash!

Can you not just post in plain old English once in a while??? I swear, either I am completely stupid, or you go out of your way to confuse me. I never "get it"!?!?!

Am I the only one not able to decipher your posts?