Incredible win at Cherry Red, but????

[Edward D. Wood]

Originally Posted by JHV

I'm not saying Lucky Red ......

Just to be a smart ass. It was Cherry Red Casino.

BUT...I think you are right. I, for myself, when I win. I am in highest danger to gamble the money away. So, I know what you mean, and the casino really should flush his account to prevent reversing.

BUT maybe its the idea of this casino to save a bit money

My 2 cents
Ed

[rockycatt]

Originally Posted by eu_lowroller

What have this to do with "Lucky Red" ?

must be a typo error --------> CHERY RED was the O P;S casino good proof read

[eu_lowroller]

Originally Posted by rockycatt

must be a typo error --------> CHERY RED was the O P;S casino

You're also wrong, because it is "CherRy Red"

[JHV]

Sorry guys - I'm dyslexic - have edited it to the right "Red" - thx eu!

Originally Posted by Edward D. Wood

BUT maybe its the idea of this casino to save a bit money

My 2 cents
Ed

Yep sure, it would be really annoying and costly for a gaming operator if players consistently withdrew and deposited back and forth.

But they should only react *if* a player shows a history of doing that. It should not be default policy.

So what Cherry Red should do is:
1. If player requests pending w/d's to be flushed, they should flush those amounts.
2. If player deposits whilst he has flushed withdrawals pending, they should just contact him or her and explain that this creates high transaction fees for them - and explain that, in the future, they won't be able to flush pending w/d's if the player continues to withdraw then deposit not long after.
3. Player wins again. Requests flush. They should flush.
4. Player deposits again whilst pending w/d's are flushed, they should contact the player and explain that, in the future, they will be unable to flush pending withdrawals for this reason.

Perfect no?

Originally Posted by eu_lowroller

You're also wrong, because it is "CherRy Red"

I like this guy!

[jas2587]

Originally Posted by JHV

Sorry chuchu59, this is the 3rd time in the last hour I've read a post of yours where you're clearly either in the wrong or perhaps you don't understand the complexities of the situation.

This player's concern is completely valid. If he requests that the w/d be flushed so that he doesn't gamble it away one night or w/e, then to not do so is pure unethical behaviour from the casino.

I'm not saying Cherry Red are behaving unethically here - just speaking in general terms as someone who's been badly burned by a casino intentionally stringing out my w/d request over a period of time, even lying to me in the hope I would gamble those funds away (which I did).

Not all of us have your self-control chuchu59. Put yourself in the other guy's shoes in these spots. Whilst it would be unfair to even compare Cherry Red's failure to flush the w/d with what happened in my situation, if it turns out that the player has requested those funds be flushed pending withdrawal - and they are left sitting in his account - that's very poor form and deserving of criticism / sanction(s) of some kind.

well you can bet your last dollar that those funds will sit in his account till hell freezes over cause Cherry red does not remove them they wont even let you redeposit if you have a cashout pending

an if anyone has no self control an plays it back then I say tey are an idiot an a stupid player because they played right into the casino's hands

Cindy

[rockycatt]

Originally Posted by eu_lowroller

You're also wrong, because it is "CherRy Red"

nice proof read im still sleepy here;s a copy and paste of the evadence
-------->Incredible win at Cherry Red, but????

[JHV]

Originally Posted by jas2587

an if anyone has no self control an plays it back then I say tey are an idiot an a stupid player because they played right into the casino's hands

Cindy

I did exactly that, Cindy. Multiple times.

Am I an idiot and stupid? Trick question. The answer is yes and no. Yes, I was stupid to do so. No, because *maybe* there was some compulsion in the mix and that compulsion / lack of control was not only taken advantage of...the whole situation was intentionally contrived to deliver that result for the casino.

Either way, we're not discussing the intelligence levels of the OP, myself or anyone else in this post - and frankly, I think it's probably preferable to not dance down that road...

We're discussing whether the casino is behaving in a roguish fashion by not flushing the pending withdrawals, which are only pending because of the casino's low max withdrawal limits. Do you see?

[jas2587]

Originally Posted by JHV

I did exactly that, Cindy. Multiple times.

Am I an idiot and stupid? Trick question. The answer is yes and no. Yes, I was stupid to do so. No, because *maybe* there was some compulsion in the mix and that compulsion / lack of control was not only taken advantage of...the whole situation was intentionally contrived to deliver that result for the casino.

Either way, we're not discussing the intelligence levels of the OP, myself or anyone else in this post - and frankly, I think it's probably preferable to not dance down that road...

We're discussing whether the casino is behaving in a roguish fashion by not flushing the pending withdrawals, which are only pending because of the casino's low max withdrawal limits. Do you see?

yeah I see did you not read my post where Is said they would not flush an that they will have to have self control to not play it back
did you not see?

you sure are a pot stirer you like to start things when nothing needed to be started but I forgot you are the high roller an can just lose at your whim
oh well I got things to do you have a nice day ya hear

Cindy

[slotheadlizard]

Congrats Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I read from your post is: I hit for a lot of money at Cherry, they processed the first 4,000. The rest will be sent, I'm not worried about that, but in the meantime its just sitting there? Its not flushed, and I can't make a fresh deposit.
That IMO sucks because its so easliy reversable and tempting to play back. I was in a similar sit. with an RTG, In my case though I found out (2 Late) that they would have flused mine for me. I like an idiot played most of it back. My illogic thinking was, at least I don't have to make fresh deposits at other casinos-dumb.

I'm not saying you don't have self control. If that is the case however, maybe Cindy can pull up the threads on what to do not to play back your winnings. Some people had some really great ideas. At any rate, good luck.

For any RTG reps, why can't you guys just flush? I'm not saying pay it all at once, but make it non reversible?

[JHV]

Originally Posted by jas2587

yeah I see did you not read my post where Is said they would not flush an that they will have to have self control to not play it back
did you not see?

you sure are a pot stirer you like to start things when nothing needed to be started but I forgot you are the high roller an can just lose at your whim
oh well I got things to do you have a nice day ya hear

Cindy

I apologise if I misunderstood you Cindy, and I can assure you I'm not trying to stir the pot. If I was, my last post would be so very very different than the one I posted

So basically you're saying? "Look, RTG casinos *will not* flush. So don't be an idiot and lose that money!!"

Is that right?

Cause I could have actually used a slap on the face when I got sucked in and played right into their hands...no one slapped me in the face except myself after I lost it all back to them

In any case, I see your point. It's just that not all of us have self-control that we'd like to have in an ideal world. With me, when I get disillusioned by the world or people have ripped me off or friends aren't repaying loans I gave them in emergency situations and now they're wealthy and still stalling on repayments...things like that...I don't think I get angry so much, I get fatalistic? maybe, more just "bleh what's the point.." and if I have funds available sitting there pending, those funds are in grave danger. Grave danger. Is there any other kind?



So what I firmly believe is that many casinos are very aware of these kinds of emotions with gamblers, and they will actively create situations to exploit that. I'm not saying RTG casinos are doing that! I don't know.

But I believe it's our responsibility to try and persuade or force them (if we can) to act in an ethical manner that will result in decreased profits sure - but won't cause devastating damage to those of us who are just human. Or, in my case, massive embarrassment for falling into their trap...creating subsequent shame etc.

And whilst our actions in falling into that trap and losing that money may appear idiotic or stupid, I'm not sure Cindy that they always are. Perhaps for me yes...cause I damn well should know better. But for others who haven't been gambling for years...I wouldn't consider them idiots or weak or stupid for falling for that trap at all. I definitely sympathise with them and direct my attentions to criticising the casinos that create the 'trap' with capped w/d's and refusal to flush.