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Old 26th October 2009, 11:22 AM
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i could withdraw €150.- from my free bonus, but i must make a €25.- deposit.

the question is, should i risk this?
Yes, I'm 100% sure they will pay (provided you are over 18 and haven't broken any T&Cs).
This is standard procedure, and I've never heard of any Rival casino not paying out on a free-chip.

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Old 26th October 2009, 11:57 AM
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Yes, I'm 100% sure they will pay (provided you are over 18 and haven't broken any T&Cs).
Thanks for your info and i'm even 2 times 18 so this should not be any problem

I've never broken any T&C because i never upped my bet size of 20 cent per spin, so they can't say, that i used any tactic or anything else. although i normally never play higher bets than 40 cent per spin, except on a higher bonus
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I wonder if they would deny a payout if you were to take the $30, run it up high with a game like roulette (if possible) and then make the wager requirements with the allowed games.

For example...

Say the wager requirements are $5000 with the $30 and you can only take out $150. You run up your balance to $5150 and then play $5000 on slots to make the wagering requirement and try to pull out the $150. I'm thinking they would look at your history and deny you, but I have never tried.

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I wonder if they would deny a payout if you were to take the $30, run it up high with a game like roulette (if possible) and then make the wager requirements with the allowed games.
That doesn't work, because it's exactly written "Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, Keno, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, ScratchCard, Slot Progressive."
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That doesn't work, because it's exactly written "Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, Keno, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, ScratchCard, Slot Progressive."
Right, but that's quite vague. If you built up your balance with roulette and then fulfilled the wagering requirements with a different game then you would technically fall within those restrictions. I suppose the second part "winnings may be considered null and void" could mean ANY winnings, including the winnings which took your balance up to the $5150 point (using my last example) but the word "may" still doesn't make this a black or white issue. I would think they would use a stronger statement such as "you cannot play roulette while on a no deposit bonus."

However, all this is left to the casino's interpretation and my thoughts are that I wouldn't risk the $25 to get the $150 if I were to use this strategy. Of course, you could contact support to get more clarity on this issue.
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I wonder if they would deny a payout if you were to take the $30, run it up high with a game like roulette (if possible) and then make the wager requirements with the allowed games.

For example...

Say the wager requirements are $5000 with the $30 and you can only take out $150. You run up your balance to $5150 and then play $5000 on slots to make the wagering requirement and try to pull out the $150. I'm thinking they would look at your history and deny you, but I have never tried.

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Hey Superman,

You dont have to try. Some Rivals will deny you all winnings if you played even one hand of disallowed games whereas others will give you the benefit of the doubt if you only played a couple of hands and void your winnings from these games only.

If you purposely play diallowed games first to run up your winnings to a healthy balance and then grind out WRs on slots I am pretty sure they will void all your winnings and rightfully so too as the bonus was not designed for this in the first place.
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Hey Superman,

You dont have to try. Some Rivals will deny you all winnings if you played even one hand of disallowed games whereas others will give you the benefit of the doubt if you only played a couple of hands and void your winnings from these games only.

If you purposely play diallowed games first to run up your winnings to a healthy balance and then grind out WRs on slots I am pretty sure they will void all your winnings and rightfully so too as the bonus was not designed for this in the first place.
That makes sense and it's probably the answer to my question. As the others have mentioned, the no play bonuses are probably good for not much more than a different spin on free play mode. It might also be good for confirming that your "winning" strategy works as well on real money play as it does on free play (puts the conspiracy theories to rest.)
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And final answer... they don't allow roulette on the no play bonus. When I tried they set the table max to $0.

So I went to play slots with the $30 bonus. First spin on $1 put me up to $110. Too bad I didn't bet the max I could on that one.
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Saw this casino ad on another site, so decided to check the chatter here B4 loading it up. Glad to know only one free chip can be claimed. Noticed that the Max Cashout is the same for both chips. And...no time limit on the $30 chip. That answers it for me...the $30 chip is my choice. Here I go!
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