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Old 24th October 2009, 04:42 PM
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Yeah, I'm going to take the standard $30 one.
That one is definitely the better one of the "free" ones offered. They do have a reasonable 200% bonus as well with a 17x playthru.
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Does anyone know if you can receive a bonus from this lot if you are bonus banned at other Rival casino's? (WTF is up with that rule anyways??)

I know Vegas Regal gives you bonuses even tho you are "banned" in the Rival system.

And for the bonus, you got to laugh don't you?
Guess you have to compare it to "fun mode", the difference beeing that here you can actually cash out a little something if you are superman.
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Old 24th October 2009, 05:33 PM
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Looks rogue to me. IF they are going to prohibit "Martingale", there is such a WIDE DEFINITION of this that they can go around disqualifying pretty much everybody's wins who ever changes their stakes around.

Betting limits ALONE are more than enough to kill any attempt to use Martingale to make a profit, and even when an individual Martingale cycle WORKS, the player ONLY profits overall by 1x his original bet.

The 1919 credit bonus is similar to the Microgaming "£1000 free play" offers, where a large free balance is given, but only a small amount can be transferred into the casino bonus account.

People WILL play the 1919 free, because they ONLY have to deposit AFTER they know the outcome, so players have NOTHING TO LOSE, and 200 to gain.
The size of bankroll ensures that there is little chance of beating it, because long term edge, rather than short term variance, is the main force over such a large WR.
Players may be miffed if they hit really big though, because they could then meet WR with a substantial balance, lost because of the max cashout. The same thing happens with the MGS version.
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Old 24th October 2009, 05:38 PM
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Its crazy, but its free. Even if the terms were 500x playthrough, I'd try it since its free. I consider it fun mode. I play in fun mode a lot on rtg/mg, but not Rival (no autospin) This way, I can pretend its fun, and use autospin. No expectations of winning, but will be slightly entertained. When that's all gone, I will deposit the 17x /200% and low roll like normal.

After reading Vinyl's post, I have a question. Since obviously most will play high at first to try to get the balance up, what if the pattern stays the same on the free chip. Example $5.00 spin. Then when you play on your own money say .80 per spin, can they deny your win because they say you changed your pattern from previous play?
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Its crazy, but its free. Even if the terms were 500x playthrough, I'd try it since its free. I consider it fun mode. I play in fun mode a lot on rtg/mg, but not Rival (no autospin) This way, I can pretend its fun, and use autospin. No expectations of winning, but will be slightly entertained. When that's all gone, I will deposit the 17x /200% and low roll like normal.

After reading Vinyl's post, I have a question. Since obviously most will play high at first to try to get the balance up, what if the pattern stays the same on the free chip. Example $5.00 spin. Then when you play on your own money say .80 per spin, can they deny your win because they say you changed your pattern from previous play?
I doubt it. Firstly, Martingale involves INCREASING the bet through a range, and secondly, the change from free to REAL money explains why a player would LOWER their stake to more responsible levels. If they DID void play on this basis, they would end up in the pit.

The operators seem afraid that Martingale ACTUALLY WORKS over the LONG term. It DOESN'T, and MAINLY because there are BET LIMITS, rather than the fact the maths itself shows this. Provided they set their limits properly, they will NEVER be exposed to a big loss from a Martingale player.
Most casinos WELCOME players using such systems, because it makes them money in the LONG TERM, whilst in the SHORT term, many systems appear to WORK. This is because the risk of failure is small, but failure, when it comes, is DEVASTATING. This is shown by the original Martingale idea of doubling the bet each loss, this exponential growth can reach a stage where the player is unable to bet again because they have lost everything. The odds of such a long losing sequence are low, but if it happens, that is the end for the player, and the casino has ALL his money.
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The max cashout limit is HUGE

But maybe will be possible at least to grind some comp points while playing 1919?

Playthrough(playtrough?) is very PLAYER FRIENDLY for all bonuses.Maximum I've seen before for ND was x50 at Superior.For deposit x60don't remember where.

What will happen after 24hrs if you won and completed WR? You may have a huge balance BTW.You could gain some comps and redeem them for COOL HARD CA$H later if they do allow this.

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The amazing part is that they also offer a 200% bonus up to $800 with only 17xDB WR and its cashable...talk about extremes
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The amazing part is that they also offer a 200% bonus up to $800 with only 17xDB WR and its cashable...talk about extremes
This one is good! I took similar bonus offers in a few other Rivals but was bonus banned after having won several times.

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Ok, ya'll, I am reading all these comments by you guys and I am sitting here LMAO because almost everyone is saying these outrageous things but yet CLAIMUING the bonuses...and I am sitting here wondering...just who are the crazies now??? I am saying this lovingly to all my posters...so please take it that way...as a mother talks to her kids...you know? Just because they built the bridge in gold doesn't mean you have to jump off of it for sh*ts and giggles....OMG...You guys are toooo cute!

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Some things are played just for the pure fun of it, don't make any one of us crazies. If we seriously wanted to walk away with money we would have taken the $30 chip. The $1919 chip is just for the competition to see how far you can get, how long it will last and just because it's fun, not serious.
By the casino giving this kind of free chip with the WR it shows they are not serious about gaining anyone as a real player, so I personally am not serious about keeping this casino on my desktop when I am done with this insane bonus. Otherwise I would be playing the $30 free chip.
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Does anyone know if you can receive a bonus from this lot if you are bonus banned at other Rival casino's? (WTF is up with that rule anyways??)

I know Vegas Regal gives you bonuses even tho you are "banned" in the Rival system.

And for the bonus, you got to laugh don't you?
Guess you have to compare it to "fun mode", the difference beeing that here you can actually cash out a little something if you are superman.
I'm bonus banned at most of the Rivals and any new one's usually ban me from the off. Not this one! Kind of worrying...
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