Online Casinos - Casinomeister Logo Online Casinos - Casinomeister
Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Hot/Cold indicators of MG casinos? Help or Hinderence?

  1. #1
    Mavin1 is offline Dormant account
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    1,012
    Thanks
    2,039
    Thanked 806 Times in 388 Posts
    Rep Power
    0
    Reputation Points: 5461

    Hot/Cold indicators of MG casinos? Help or Hinderence?

    I am wondering if people who play Microgamming casinos, play according to the hot/cold inidcators? If you do can you voice your experience?
    Mine is that I always gravitate to them as I can only make small deposits, around $25 to $35 and want it to last or maybe have a good win, which I'm sure we all want the same thing.
    99% of the time I play the slots that are indicated as being really hot, I prefer the inidicator to be in the 300 range as I feel if it's higher then the game has already peaked. There has been a couple times this has worked well, like in the 1% range, but for the other approx 99% I always lose all my money.
    I keep quiting MCG because of this and feel the indicator can be misleading or a hook to take my money. The other night after losing my $122 on Mayan Princess that was 385ish when I started, played at $1.40 per spin, got only one free spin session paying $16.00 for 13 spins, when I quit the game the inidcator then said it was at 408 HOT HOT HOT!!! It's not just this game but nearly all the ones that are inidcated as being in the hot range.
    After losing I decided to play in fun mode on some of the cold games, at 80 to 120 range, wouldn't you know it I hit on all but one slot the free spin/bonus rounds multiple times with nice payouts.
    So does the Hot/Cold indicator help us or hurt us overall?

  2. #2
    DiamondGeezer's Avatar
    DiamondGeezer is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    NOT Pennsylvania!!!
    Posts
    584
    Thanks
    845
    Thanked 292 Times in 184 Posts
    Rep Power
    32
    Reputation Points: 1921
    It makes no difference, it neither hurts us or helps us. Really you are better off playing a game that you simply enjoy, as the chance of winning on any one is about the same. However different games have different variances. If you look at KK's or Zoozies site you can see what is high and low variance.

    The simple truth is that the best way to give yourself a chance to win is to hit the bonus trail.

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to DiamondGeezer For This Useful Post:

    Mavin1 (10th October 2009)

  4. #3
    just play's Avatar
    just play is offline I'm ready for the Holiday
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,541
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks
    1,216
    Thanked 952 Times in 592 Posts
    Rep Power
    60
    Reputation Points: 5421
    I was once told by a casino, I forget which one, (not exact words) that indicator means nothing really, it's just like hitting a random jackpot at RTG, all about luck.

    I always do better on the lower indicator games.
    Christmas is coming fast!!!

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to just play For This Useful Post:

    Mavin1 (10th October 2009)

  6. #4
    De Beuker's Avatar
    De Beuker is offline Senior Member Achievements:
    1 year registered25000 Experience PointsPeople Likes You
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,188
    Thanks
    1,014
    Thanked 629 Times in 387 Posts
    Rep Power
    34
    Reputation Points: 3338
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavin1 View Post
    I am wondering if people who play Microgamming casinos, play according to the hot/cold inidcators? If you do can you voice your experience?
    Mine is that I always gravitate to them as I can only make small deposits, around $25 to $35 and want it to last or maybe have a good win, which I'm sure we all want the same thing.
    99% of the time I play the slots that are indicated as being really hot, I prefer the inidicator to be in the 300 range as I feel if it's higher then the game has already peaked. There has been a couple times this has worked well, like in the 1% range, but for the other approx 99% I always lose all my money.
    I keep quiting MCG because of this and feel the indicator can be misleading or a hook to take my money. The other night after losing my $122 on Mayan Princess that was 385ish when I started, played at $1.40 per spin, got only one free spin session paying $16.00 for 13 spins, when I quit the game the inidcator then said it was at 408 HOT HOT HOT!!! It's not just this game but nearly all the ones that are inidcated as being in the hot range.
    After losing I decided to play in fun mode on some of the cold games, at 80 to 120 range, wouldn't you know it I hit on all but one slot the free spin/bonus rounds multiple times with nice payouts.
    So does the Hot/Cold indicator help us or hurt us overall?
    Well, I've been trying to figure this out for a couple of months now, watching the values and see if there's any relationship in how a game plays.
    My conclusion is that for most of the games, the thermometer is worthless, it says nothing at all about if the game is willing to pay or not.
    I've had really nice hits on Thunderstruck with the indicator on 80.8 as wel as 999.
    But with some newer games I definately notice a difference in how it plays, especially Centre Court.
    Centre Court with a JPT below 100? I never ever hit anything on it, never.
    Another thing I noticed when playing CC, is that when I hit a really good freespinround, in the 300-500x bet range, usually with a lot of stacked wilds insight, the game completely dies afterwards.
    When I check back in the lobby then, the JPT has always fallen back to 80.
    Dynamic weighting of reels? maybe? I'm almost 100% sure.
    So, with Centre Court there seems to be a relationship, but a high value NEVER guarantees a winning session.

    Also keep in mind that these thermometers are not updated in realtime, some casino's update them every half an hour, some only once in an hour.

    So the best thing to do is just watch how the game plays, I always put it on autoplay for 50 spins, if it won't show any scatters, and no linewins over 4x bet, (check the STATS button, for some games the % sign), I'll leave it alone and move on to the next one.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to De Beuker For This Useful Post:

    Mavin1 (11th October 2009)

  8. #5
    DaveG39 is offline Experienced Member Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience Points1000 Experience PointsFriends R Us
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Glendale,CA,USA
    Posts
    199
    Thanks
    126
    Thanked 53 Times in 38 Posts
    Rep Power
    13
    Reputation Points: 275
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavin1 View Post
    I am wondering if people who play Microgamming casinos, play according to the hot/cold inidcators? If you do can you voice your experience?
    Mine is that I always gravitate to them as I can only make small deposits, around $25 to $35 and want it to last or maybe have a good win, which I'm sure we all want the same thing.
    99% of the time I play the slots that are indicated as being really hot, I prefer the inidicator to be in the 300 range as I feel if it's higher then the game has already peaked. There has been a couple times this has worked well, like in the 1% range, but for the other approx 99% I always lose all my money.
    I keep quiting MCG because of this and feel the indicator can be misleading or a hook to take my money. The other night after losing my $122 on Mayan Princess that was 385ish when I started, played at $1.40 per spin, got only one free spin session paying $16.00 for 13 spins, when I quit the game the inidcator then said it was at 408 HOT HOT HOT!!! It's not just this game but nearly all the ones that are inidcated as being in the hot range.
    After losing I decided to play in fun mode on some of the cold games, at 80 to 120 range, wouldn't you know it I hit on all but one slot the free spin/bonus rounds multiple times with nice payouts.
    So does the Hot/Cold indicator help us or hurt us overall?
    ALL indicators do nothing more than perpetuate the Gambler's Fallacy that if a game is "hot" it will continue to be or if it's "cold" you should play because it's "due" to turn around soon. Hogwash!!

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to DaveG39 For This Useful Post:

    Mavin1 (11th October 2009)

  10. #6
    Mavin1 is offline Dormant account
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    1,012
    Thanks
    2,039
    Thanked 806 Times in 388 Posts
    Rep Power
    0
    Reputation Points: 5461
    Then maybe the whole idea behind these indicators is to dupe a percentage of the playing population into wasting their money on games that are dead cold and they can always fall back on the excuse that it's just for entertainment purposes, , thus steering many away from the ones that are truly paying. Because the fact is we aren't playing just for the fun of it, we want to win.
    Last edited by Mavin1; 11th October 2009 at 12:34 AM. Reason: mispell

  11. #7
    KasinoKing's Avatar
    KasinoKing is offline WebMeister & Slotaholic..
    Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album picturesCreated Blog entry50000 Experience PointsSocial Magnet!
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Hastings, UK
    Posts
    8,853
    Blog Entries
    7
    Thanks
    5,181
    Thanked 5,316 Times in 2,625 Posts
    Rep Power
    219
    Reputation Points: 28666
    I agree with all above - the indicators are nothing more than a gimmick.

    If you believe the slots to be totally random, they can never be "due to hit".
    If you don't believe the slots to be totally random - find another way to spend your money!

    KK
    Smile, it may never happen...
    KasinoKing's News < Rival release their first ever 50-line slot.
    SIX new softwares to try ~ Reel Layouts and Jackpot Odds ~ New USA Friendly Casinos!

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to KasinoKing For This Useful Post:

    Jasminebed (11th October 2009)

  13. #8
    KasinoKing's Avatar
    KasinoKing is offline WebMeister & Slotaholic..
    Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album picturesCreated Blog entry50000 Experience PointsSocial Magnet!
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Hastings, UK
    Posts
    8,853
    Blog Entries
    7
    Thanks
    5,181
    Thanked 5,316 Times in 2,625 Posts
    Rep Power
    219
    Reputation Points: 28666
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavin1 View Post
    Then maybe the whole idea behind these indicators is to dupe a percentage of the playing population into wasting their money on games that are dead cold and they can always fall back on the excuse that it's just for intertainment purposes, , thus steering many away from the ones that are truly paying. Because the fact is we aren't playing just for the fun of it, we want to win.
    Sorry - you posted this while I was posting!

    The indicators may well show that a slot has gone longer than it's average time since the last jackpot has hit, but if it's totally random it doesn't make it more likely to hit.
    e.g: The chances of getting 5 wilds on Thunderstruck is 1 in 3.96 million.
    The very next spin after it hits, the chances are still 1 in 3.96 million.
    If it hasn't hit for 50 million spins, the chances are still 1 in 3.96 million.

    See my post above - if they are random, there is no "hot and cold", only good luck and bad luck.

    KK
    Smile, it may never happen...
    KasinoKing's News < Rival release their first ever 50-line slot.
    SIX new softwares to try ~ Reel Layouts and Jackpot Odds ~ New USA Friendly Casinos!

  14. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to KasinoKing For This Useful Post:

    Jasminebed (11th October 2009), Mavin1 (11th October 2009)

Similar Threads

  1. COLD GAMES
    By juliack in forum Online Casinos
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 14th May 2008, 09:25 AM
  2. New messages / forum status indicators
    By zaphod42 in forum Forum Suggestions, Announcements, & Feedback
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 14th October 2004, 10:42 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Legal Statements and Privacy Policy
Casinomeister.com does not intend for any of the information contained on this website to be used for illegal purposes. You must ensure you meet all age and other regulatory requirements before entering a casino or placing a wager. Online gambling is illegal in many jurisdictions and users should consult legal counsel regarding the legal status of online gambling and gaming in their jurisdictions. The information in this site is for news and entertainment purposes only. Casinomeister.com is an independent directory and information service free of any gaming operator's control. Links to third party websites on Casinomeister.com are provided solely for informative/educational purposes. If you use these links, you leave this Website.