pay out rates of a rival casino

[KasinoKing]

Originally Posted by chuchu59

They are able to give you an indication on the average payout for these games yet I have never been successful in requesting for my payout average for any game at any Rival casino.
The software is unable to do it and you have to check it manually yourself I am told.

Not a problem if you record all your spins as you go along like I do!
It might sound like a lot of hard work, but it's actually very quick & simple once you have your spreadsheet template set up

KK

[chuchu59]

Very true KK. However, if RTG, 3Dice and MG can give you your payout rates why is Rival unable to do so. Come to think of it I havent seen a single forum member given his payout rates for any sessions or games from a Rival casino.

[NicolasJohnson]

I agree with you Chuchu59, it is something that should be added.

As a new casino, we have a large number of changes and requests to our software provider. I'll let you know that getting what you are requesting is on our wish list, although admittedly not at the top.

The method KasinoKing posted is great and works perfectly in the meantime, but we go agree it should be changed. I did send you a PM Chuchu

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Regal Affiliates Manager

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by NicolasJohnson

I agree with you Chuchu59, it is something that should be added.

As a new casino, we have a large number of changes and requests to our software provider. I'll let you know that getting what you are requesting is on our wish list, although admittedly not at the top.

The method KasinoKing posted is great and works perfectly in the meantime, but we go agree it should be changed. I did send you a PM Chuchu

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Regal Affiliates Manager

So, the software CANNOT calculate payout ratio when a PLAYER asks, but CAN when the OPERATOR asks

Perhaps these figures are NOT what they are represented as being, an overall RTP for the game, which players are told CANNOT be calculated.

I have to argue the point on this one too:-

not sure which casino that is but the payout rates don't include bonuses but they may have caused a higher payout rate. Microgaming casinos have boasted about high payout rates for a while. It does happen where players can win a lot sometimes especially if a progressive jackpot win is factored into the equation. I think I have seen River belle post a payout rate of 107% in one month. A few big wins will do this.

Bonuses CANNOT affect the RTP of the games, surely. If a slot is set to an RTP of 96%, it will play to this whether the player has taken a healthy bonus or not (unless the casino has cheating software, of course). The casino may pay out more in WITHDRAWALS because players have had use of bonus money, but this is NOT what the figures in the email are representing, they are saying that certain slots have paid out more in wins than the cost of spins made - nothing to do with bonuses.

It's all a marketing trick anyway, the OVERALL payout rarely overshoots by a large margin, so when it happens, it is a marketing godsend to the casino, and they can milk it for all it's worth - as has been the case here.

For the rest of the time, especially when it undershoots, they just stay quiet, no "fanfare" of "the casino has kicked your asses this last month, come back for more....."

The "hot slots" is an even better marketing tool, as EVERY month there are going to be slots that have paid over the odds, just as there will be those that have paid under. ONLY those that are "hot" will be promoted, and the encouragement is to play MORE on these so called "hot" slots because "they are paying". This is either complete bullshit, or cheating software - but it must work in their favour, or they wouldn't do it.

Some MGS casinos I knew also featured which slots had been "cold" as well as those that had been "hot", perhaps to entice the "cleverer player" (Ha Ha) who might fall for such false logic, and conclude that the correct action was to avoid the "hot" slots, because they were "empty" by now, and chase the "full" ones listed under "cold" (Ha Ha again)

This is FRUIT MACHINE logic - don't confuse it with the logic model for online RANDOM slots

[Mavin1]

Today I got lucky and hit a hot slot at Ruby Royal. I had reversed my $45 from the sign on bonus win after the wr had been met. I jumped around on a couple slots which were doing fair but not great and decided to play Grandmas Attic, I was playing 45 cent spins since I was down to around $9, hit a free spin, didn't do much, then hit the skeleton keys, fair the first two times. Then I was down to around $3-$5 and hit the free spins again and during the free spins got the four attic keys and found 3 trunks with the extra key allowing me four trunks to open, by the end of this bonus round I was up $185.00 . Played a bit more but decided to quit when I was on the go down and cashed out $175. So for my $15 or less that I was down to, playing the 45 cents per spin I'd say I definately got the better deal.
Thanks Ruby Royal!!!!!

[KasinoKing]

Originally Posted by Mavin1

Today I got lucky and hit a hot slot at Ruby Royal. I had reversed my $45 from the sign on bonus win after the wr had been met. I jumped around on a couple slots which were doing fair but not great and decided to play Grandmas Attic, I was playing 45 cent spins since I was down to around $9, hit a free spin, didn't do much, then hit the skeleton keys, fair the first two times. Then I was down to around $3-$5 and hit the free spins again and during the free spins got the four attic keys and found 3 trunks with the extra key allowing me four trunks to open, by the end of this bonus round I was up $185.00 . Played a bit more but decided to quit when I was on the go down and cashed out $175. So for my $15 or less that I was down to, playing the 45 cents per spin I'd say I definitely got the better deal.

Great result!
That's what I really love about (some) Rival slots; if you get the picking feature during the free-spins it is multiplied by the spin multiplier, which can lead to mega-wins!
This is unlike many MG slots where you don't even get to play the pick feature if you hit the scatters during free-spins - and some don't even allow free-spin re-triggers!

KK

[Mavin1]

Originally Posted by KasinoKing

Great result!
That's what I really love about (some) Rival slots; if you get the picking feature during the free-spins it is multiplied by the spin multiplier, which can lead to mega-wins!
This is unlike many MG slots where you don't even get to play the pick feature if you hit the scatters during free-spins - and some don't even allow free-spin re-triggers!

KK

So true KK!
Honestly I am burned out on trying to win at MG and RTG casinos, so they are off my list of places I play. For years I had pretty much ignored Rival casinos not realizing that these casinos can be VERY generous and actually quite fun. I enjoy a good slot with great features/bonus rounds and Rivals definately have it all over the competition.
When I was playing the free $20 bonus, which I played on nearly 2 days, I played the Jacques Pot slot for the first time. I won the free spins and got Jacque himself in the free spin mode, now this one was really fun moving the hamburger back and forth catching the lettuce, tomatoes, ketsup and such, on that bonus alone I won $135 playing at 60 cents per spin.
So Rival is now a permanent casino on my desktop.

[bryand]

An email I received today from Cocoa:

November's Loosest Slots

Our slots are set to payout at 96% but every month we have some real Hot Slots. So far this month, these games are paying out huge to our players at an average payout of...

152.24% Average Payout!

Scary Rich 2 - 695.49%
Gobblers Gold - 135.18%
Moonlight Mystery - 123.86%
Cosmic Quest Ep. 1 - 122.10%
Fantastic Fruit - 112.34%
Metal Detector - 111.31%
Baby Boomers: Cash Cruise - 109.62%
Dog Pound Dollars - 107.15%
Reel Party - 105.45%
Ocean Treasure - 105.45%
Watch the Birdie - 103.91%
Hole in Won - 100.45%

[RobWin]

Scary Rich 2 - 695.49%

Right...and I've got some beach front property in Tennessee that I can offer them at a great deal as well!! LOL

I play that game practically every damn day and my stats reveal a totally different story!
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[NASHVEGAS]

Originally Posted by RobWin

Scary Rich 2 - 695.49%

Right...and I've got some beach front property in Tennessee that I can offer them at a great deal as well!! LOL

I play that game practically every damn day and my stats reveal a totally different story!
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<derail>LOLOL.......when those condos downtown were selling for ~ $300 to $500 per square foot, I knew the ATLANTIC and beaches were included. <derail ceased,sorry>