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    a rigged game?

    Quote Originally Posted by kimss View Post
    How do you detect a rigged game?
    Casino operators can edit software source code. In that sense, if they are not being regularly audited, fraud can go unchecked.

    I had a few nasty experiences with Internet casinos. At one online casino I was steadily winning small amounts. As long as my winnings were modest, the roulette was truly random. But when I started to win big, I received the rather disappointing connection to server lost "error message". Once I connected to the server again, I began to loose all the winnings and my bank roll as well!

    At another casino, my winnings were at a certain moment (after six logins, i.e., play sessions) two-thirds of my deposit. The next play session (thus after the seventh login) I lost all my winnings and my deposited money after 145 roulette spins. Red came up 93 times and Black only 52 times!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdbruyck View Post
    Casino operators can edit software source code. In that sense, if they are not being regularly audited, fraud can go unchecked.

    I had a few nasty experiences with Internet casinos. At one online casino I was steadily winning small amounts. As long as my winnings were modest, the roulette was truly random. But when I started to win big, I received the rather disappointing connection to server lost "error message". Once I connected to the server again, I began to loose all the winnings and my bank roll as well!

    At another casino, my winnings were at a certain moment (after six logins, i.e., play sessions) two-thirds of my deposit. The next play session (thus after the seventh login) I lost all my winnings and my deposited money after 145 roulette spins. Red came up 93 times and Black only 52 times!!
    I highly doubt Casinos can edit the modules of source code.

    I'm a Software Engineer by trade, any software is distributed in compiled source code. These cannot be edited. When compiled they are given a hash and a date stamp so they cannot be tampered with.

    Now, they may however have additional configuration applications which may
    let them adjust live settings on the software. Off course this is easily possible
    but I highly doubt it.

    Although when software is involved most things are possible.
    Mannie
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    Quote Originally Posted by mannie2009 View Post
    I highly doubt Casinos can edit the modules of source code.

    I'm a Software Engineer by trade, any software is distributed in compiled source code. These cannot be edited. When compiled they are given a hash and a date stamp so they cannot be tampered with.

    Now, they may however have additional configuration applications which may
    let them adjust live settings on the software. Off course this is easily possible
    but I highly doubt it.

    Although when software is involved most things are possible.
    Mannie
    LOL, i'm not a software engineer... but i'm pretty sure you are. Back when i was really curious about this stuff, i contacted a friend who is a software engineer for an aerodynamics company. (Hush hush stuff) I think he tried to explain to me what you are saying here. The funny part is... after this long discussion, he ended with a similar disclaimer: "but with sofware, anything is possible." I think that's what makes all this so interesting for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippo925 View Post
    LOL, i'm not a software engineer... but i'm pretty sure you are. Back when i was really curious about this stuff, i contacted a friend who is a software engineer for an aerodynamics company. (Hush hush stuff) I think he tried to explain to me what you are saying here. The funny part is... after this long discussion, he ended with a similar disclaimer: "but with sofware, anything is possible." I think that's what makes all this so interesting for me.
    He he a wise man by the sounds of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mannie2009 View Post
    He he a wise man by the sounds of it.
    very wise, very nice. but he had tons of grey hair before he was 30! Was always kinda nerdy too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippo925 View Post
    very wise, very nice. but he had tons of grey hair before he was 30! Was always kinda nerdy too...
    So far I have escaped both

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    Yes I have played a number of online casino and yes IMO they are well and truly fixed. Take it from me do not play keep ya money you will only loose it, if you do not believe me then play them you will loose money, you see, learn the hard way if necessary. You will play and see. Roulette for example .every time you pick a line 1st for example.is it just a coincidence but why does the machine come up with everything but the first line ,10 /15 spins every time it just goes opposite (you got it is s fixed that is why) ,,always on the line you bet.come on it is not just 32 red but casino on net....william hill, ladbrokes,,,,,,,club dice..they are all the same man..play them you will see ,,,,,the games are fixed........they clear you out in the end..........there are so many of these sites on the internet some are owned by the same company...........trust me they are a scam.if you are lucky to win then believe me they will get it back it is a scam..they try and get you hooked so you end up chasing your loses, believe me do not learn the hard way, stay clear of these gambling sites they are a fix. They will win everytime it is a global economy that targets people like you and me.....all the gloss and colours and hype.they are a complete fix and i believe there will be the majority on here who believe what i have written. I call on you all to boycott these internet gambling and it will put the boogers out of business, stop giving them our hard earned cash.Spread the word for all our sakes they are a complete fix.

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    I have just uninstalled the last casino site i am never playing again they are all the bloody same.............................................. ................
    this is my last post remember online casino is fixed IMO...............they win in the end..............................................I T IS AN INDUSTRY,,,,,,,,,,,,
    I am not stupid I know what I am saying is right I have studied these sites too long and I am 100 per cent certain they are a scam.............the machine alters to let you win a bit and then it gets it all back.in roulette it does not matter what you bet when the machine enters its cheat mode it will go opposite what you have bet on i.e red or blck and that is why you can get a run of 30 blacks on the trot when u r betting red.The same for betting on a line 1st 2nd or 3rd.you will always find for example when you are betting on 1st line it will not come in machine has entered a cheat mode and knows what you are trying to do by betting on the 1st line it will come up 2nd and third all day...........it is programmed to do you.
    when you s[pin the wheel without betting it shares out all the lines because you are not putting money on it spins fairly,once you start betting it goes into cheat mode wins more than it pays out,BELIEVE ME THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.....every online casino I have played does the same and that is why I believe they are a scam and owned by the same companies.
    Trust me i am not on here to give you tips on how to play,,no i am here to warn you not to play because you will loose.

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    Do not trust ONLINE CASINOS BOYCOTT them and stop them from taking ya money, I am sure these threads will be removed because it is the truth

    Good day

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddled View Post
    Do not trust ONLINE CASINOS BOYCOTT them and stop them from taking ya money, I am sure these threads will be removed because it is the truth

    Good day
    Well no, it's not the truth - just your personal opinion.
    If I was to come to this forum saying casinos are 100% fair, then people quite rightly would demand evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that it was the truth.
    That's why I have never said that.
    I personally believe they are fair, but I can't prove it.

    Where is your evidence?
    So you lost playing roulette - join the club... it's a VERY big one!

    Good day to you sir!
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