Oliver Curran says that if you read read this forum, he does not want your business

**Casinomeister** · 15th February 2008, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by same old

Hi Bryan,

So when you go to the ICE-meeting's etc, have you ever come across Oliver or any other casino manager's from the rouged casino's ?... if so how do the conversations go??.

Do you go with a list of customer complaints and lug them on his lap????..
I bet this is where the real conversations take place....

I've never met Warren Cloud even though he has been known to show his face at come conferences - industry, never an affiliate one. "Oliver Curran" is not a real person - it's a persona than the casino uses for a casino manager.

I've met rogue casino operators pretty much on a normal basis. Virtual Casinos for example. I got fed up with those guys from their "we've gotten better" mantra. They are perfectly aware of the problems the have of non-payments, so I never have to dump anything in anyone's lap

It's the players who keep these guys in business, so perhaps there should be a player conference instead. That's where the real conversations should take place. Any player who patronizes these business is a major part of the problem.

**brianzz** · 15th February 2008, 09:05 AM

Nobody has mentioned the most important part of the mythical Oliver Currans statement.. people that read this forum won't play at his casinos

**SlotMonster** · 15th February 2008, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by brianzz

Nobody has mentioned the most important part of the mythical Oliver Currans statement.. people that read this forum won't play at his casinos

No need to mention.

I think that if people read this forum, they never will want to play at his casinos!

**same_old** · 15th February 2008, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by SlotMonster

No need to mention.

I think that if people read this forum, they never will want to play at his casinos!

Yes well by the looks of Oliver's email that he has a big dislike for Casinomeister. You can tell this site, Bryan and casinomeisters posse of excellent webmaster's and people that know the game have had an impact on him and the casino's he manages.

This is just ONE person that asked a question to Oliver as they have seen complaints in regards to the casino.
That person will now tell 10 people about this, we have told at least 10 people about this, hopefully a few hundred have read this thread and seen what Oliver has written and will now think twice and go tell 10 people.

The real question is how the hell do you stop the noobies from signing up at these rouged shit holes....

**dropdead1** · 15th February 2008, 09:12 PM

So any of you that read the link I posted will have noticed that this person plays on his own poker site under the alias "iceice". Besides this being highly unacceptable to me, his poker site is also not affiliated to any of the bodies that police the online gaming industry! My issue with him is that here in South Africa he is doing a roaring trade as no-one has been aware of his past. I also find him to be very arrogant as he just locked my friends account because she was chatting to someone that was sitting at the same table as him on his site and she obviously rejected his butting into the conversation (without the use of any foul language or anything). Suddenly the little pop-up appeared on her screen saying that her account had been locked! What an arrogant @#%^&. There have also been issues with people battling to get their money out of silversands poker (from what I read on the local forums) or having to fill in endless forms and getting every excuse in the book as to why they have to wait long for their cash outs!

Anyway, I have am not sure if you have silversands casino listed as one of his rogue casino's but he also owns www.silversandspoker.com and www.jackpotcash.com. Perhaps these could be added to the already long list of his casinos that you have.

That way try opening the eyes of my fellow South Africans by referring them straight to your list.

I hate the injustice of what happened to my friend and hate the fact that this person (cannot call him a man) has a "god-complex" and thinks he is superior to everyone else just because he has a bit of money behind his name! He is unethical and should not be allowed to trade!!!!!!!!!!!!

**vinylweatherman** · 15th February 2008, 09:28 PM

I thought our old friend "Warren" had gone from the Crystal Palace group, and I believe at the time it was mentioned that he was going to South Africa. It looks like he has done just that, moved to where he is less well known about, so that he can continue his "rogue trader" act.

If there are forums in South Africa, perhaps they need to be made aware of his past with Crystal Palace, if indeed this IS his "past", and he is not still there in some kind of corporate disguise, such as a "shadow director".

If we are to have a "player's conference", who will sponsor it?
Individual players would have to be faced with a reasonable cost of joining in, otherwise they will not go.

How big is your house Bryan?

**brianzz** · 15th February 2008, 11:24 PM

dropdead I tried to read the blog entry that you linked up to but it appears to be written by a meth head and I was lost due to lack of puncuation and capitalization, not to mention all the comments that were inserted.