Guess Who's Cashout Terms Include a 15X WR On All Deposits

[vinylweatherman]

Oh and another thing about Saturn Bingo, the Saturn Group, or SBN Gaming, or whoever, et al, don't bother clicking on the ubsubscribe link in their spam email. Even after sending their CEO, "James Robertson" (Who exists about as much as Betty Crocker - According to linkedin.com his real name is Shaun McCamley and despite having stated that SBN Gaming employs 25 people, linkedin.com lists Shaun as the sole employee) links to this thread demanding that my account be closed and emailing "remove me" demands and also getting the "you are now successfully unsubscribed" messages after trying the "unsubscribe" link, my spam box still gets their junk every day.



You're in the U.K. and I heard that some Brits actually drink their beer at temperatures above "head-freeze"-sub-arctic-cold or just "cold" or even a little below room temperature. Can you really blame a casino operator of being just a little leery of anyone who would live like that? And, to be fair, they only said they "reserve the right" to treat anyone outside the US or Canada as thieving scumbags.

We all know that "reserve the right" means a rule is applied EVERY TIME, but it is such a draconian one that the casino doesn't want to frighten away customers.

The bonuses that have 40x, and 80x if you ain't a Yank or a Canuk, are ONLY 35% of deposit anyway. so we have to wager a 35% bonus 80x on slots, knowing RTG slots can be set right down to 91% without us having a right to know the actual setting.

Surely a FRAUDSTER isn't worried about the damn WR anyway, they are committing FRAUD, and probably NOT with their own money. They are after the occasional WIN, and to get "dirty" money in via a deposit method, and out via a DIFFERENT method. They may even decline the bonus, since this would make it easier to withdraw "dirty" money after a certain amount of play to make it look like they are genuinely playing for entertainment.

[bernynhel]

We all know that "reserve the right" means a rule is applied EVERY TIME, but it is such a draconian one that the casino doesn't want to frighten away customers.

I didn't know that. Perhaps something as informative as that warrants its own thread rather than have it (or other eye-opening tidbits you may wish to divulge about RTG Casinos in the Main Street Vegas Group) buried and diluted here, a thread about Saturn Bingo...

[AussieDave]

the fraudster will defraud, the legitimate player will not.

Unfortunately online casinos suffer the same loses as other businesses that are affected by scammers, fraudsters and thieves.

In other instances such as supermarkets and shoplifters prices go up.

As always it's the legit & honest OP's that end up paying the price.


Cheers
Dave

[bernynhel]

How can I place like this even stay in business, im mean surely people see they 15x before withdrawal etc, well and truly enough to keep you away so im not sure how they can stay a float.

I wonder the same but look at The Virtual Group and all their sites. I'm just thinking that either players still aeren't reading the terms or operators are playing fast and loose with how they define and apply the terms. I played a freechip at Vegas Strip (virtual casino) met the WR, cashed out $100 but was disqualified because, after cashing out, I played VP with the left over balance from the freechip that the casino was, according to their terms, going to simply zero out.

[vinylweatherman]

I didn't know that. Perhaps something as informative as that warrants its own thread rather than have it (or other eye-opening tidbits you may wish to divulge about RTG Casinos in the Main Street Vegas Group) buried and diluted here, a thread about Saturn Bingo...

It's not EVERY casino, but it's like that other term "Play on xxxxxx and xxxxx does not count towards WR", when they actually mean winnings will be CONFISCATED if there is any play on said games.

With "reserve the right", you have to assume that it is normal practive to ACT upon this "reserved right", whereas in other walks of life, a "reserved right" is usually only acted upon in unusual circumstances.

[joyceflorida]

orchid and oneclub casino are definitely part of Saturn

[skiny]

I don't know anything about Orchid but One Club doesn't hide it. I get emails from One Club that say Saturn in the received column instead of One Club.