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    Getting A Bonus Removed If You Win Right Away

    This is probably a silly question that I already know the answer to, but I was just reading a thread praising gowild casino(thread name is "WTG Gowild Casino") and read this. The topic creator said that they were excellent because they removed a bonus for him even after he had used some of the money from the bonus to gamble with. He had won money, and now didn't need to fulfill wagering requirements, so he was happy with their service, as I'm sure anyone would be. Theres more detail as to why, but you can read the thread for that, as this is enough information to explain why I have this question.

    Now based on the way he worded things, he made it sound as if it was normal to remove a bonus from an account as long as the actual bonus money was not used. In the situation above, he had dipped into the bonus money before winning, which is why he was surprised they would still remove the bonus for him. But he seemed like it wouldn't be out of the ordinary to remove it had he won right off the bat and not used any of the bonus to gamble with.

    As far as I know, I don't believe a casino will remove a bonus and get rid of wagering requirements just because you didnt actually need the bonus money. Am I wrong, and they do normally do this if you ask? I thought once you start playing after taking a bonus, you are locked into fulfilling the wagering requirements, regardless if you go lower than your acutal deposit or not. It seems like it would be too good to be true if you were allowed to not fulfill wagering if you win right away, so if this is normal at some casinos please let me know.

    Thanks in advance for any info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiska927 View Post
    As far as I know, I don't believe a casino will remove a bonus and get rid of wagering requirements just because you didnt actually need the bonus money. Am I wrong, and they do normally do this if you ask? I thought once you start playing after taking a bonus, you are locked into fulfilling the wagering requirements, regardless if you go lower than your acutal deposit or not. It seems like it would be too good to be true if you were allowed to not fulfill wagering if you win right away, so if this is normal at some casinos please let me know.

    Thanks in advance for any info.
    No, you not wrong - well not totally...
    There are a few casinos where you can cash-out and forfeit your remaining bonus chips, but not many.
    At one time nearly ALL Microgaming casinos did this (when the 'flexi-bonuses' were first introduced), but these days only a handful still allow it. I presume GoWild is one of them (but I haven't checked).
    However, this has nothing to do with whether you used your bonus chips in play or not.

    The only other software I know off the top of my head who allow early cash-out are Wizard - but using your bonus chips there will lead to a totally different problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiska927 View Post
    As far as I know, I don't believe a casino will remove a bonus and get rid of wagering requirements just because you didnt actually need the bonus money. Am I wrong, and they do normally do this if you ask? I thought once you start playing after taking a bonus, you are locked into fulfilling the wagering requirements, regardless if you go lower than your acutal deposit or not. It seems like it would be too good to be true if you were allowed to not fulfill wagering if you win right away, so if this is normal at some casinos please let me know.
    In case of GoWild - They usually add bonuses automatically after i already started playing. Gowild Casino do have a great support and i believe that in case of automatic bonuses they have to be removed immediately if requested.It may be different in cases when you actually have to claim a bonus and accepted terms.

    At one time nearly ALL Microgaming casinos did this (when the 'flexi-bonuses' were first introduced), but these days only a handful still allow it. I presume GoWild is one of them (but I haven't checked).
    Actually they don't. And unlike other MGC, any remaining play-thru can be seen only from withdrawals page and the bonus amount will be null only when WR completed in full - this is from my experience.

    KK, do you actually know what MG still offer flexi-bonuses? I can not find those bonuses anywhere i play. thx
    Who took my money ??

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    Casinos such as Gowild give bonuses on nearly every deposit but sometimes you dont notice especially when you are on autoplay. It is true that some casinos will argue that even though they were given automatically you accepted the terms by playing so you should be locked into it. However, Gowild, once their bonuses are given, change table limits, so you cannot use their bonus to make huge bets on even money games so they are in a way, safer from bonus abuse.

    Even though I asked support to remove the bonus, they took some time to check my play. I believe they wanted to understand whether I tried to abuse their bonuses. If I did, I doubt whether they would have removed the bonuses for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XOXOXOXOXOX View Post
    KK, do you actually know what MG still offer flexi-bonuses? I can not find those bonuses anywhere i play. thx
    To be honest I'm not 100% sure which do, but Markus posted this the day before yesterday:-
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    Yes, it's called Clearplay bonus. There are some casino who offer this kind of bonus, for example: 32Red Group (32 Red Casino, Dash Casino), Jackpot Factory Group (All Slots Casino, All Jackpots Casino, Wild Jack, First Web Casino), Casino Rewards Group (Challenge Casino, Yukon Gold Casino, Captain Cooks Casino, Blackjack Ballroom, Aztec Riches, Casino Kingdom, Zodiac Casino, Lucky Emperor Casino, Virtual City Casino), Canbet, Casino Club and others
    I didn't think 32Red did have this - but I could be wrong... (not for the first, or last time! )

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    You have to be careful with these sort of bonuses though.

    Just recently we've seen a number of members reporting issues concerning 'bonus abuse' because of how they played a bonus.

    The Casino Rewards group is well known for this. Take more than one bonus without a sole cash deposit in between and your account will be flagged. This happened to me at one of theirs, so it could happen across other casinos.

    Also be aware that while clear play bonuses usually carry a minimum of 10% turnover, if you take a bonus and then attempt to place a handful of large bets, you know what could happen.

    These bonuses can be good if played right. But it seems that there is a crackdown on how these are being played, so in my opinion they are not as safe an option as they once were.
    Still waiting for those five rams

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