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    Bloody ID Checks

    I was just wondering if anyone can explain to me why an expired passport is not an acceptable form of photo ID.

    I mean I would have to be me to have got it in the first place. All the expired part does is invalidate it for travel, but it still is a legal form of photo ID isn't it?

    I am so fed up of casinos telling me it isn't an acceptable form of photo ID when I try to withdraw. I refuse to pay £76 to renew the passport, when it isn't necessary and I have no intention of going abroad.

    I am really sick of it, it really is the cause of much stress and angst for me. As a result, I won't be joining any more new casinos, I will just stick with the few reasonable casinos that have accepted it without any bother, sod the rest man ...

    Any casino reps that believe an expired passport isn't a legit form of photo ID, can you please explain why?


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    Quote Originally Posted by funky_seagull View Post
    I was just wondering if anyone can explain to me why an expired passport is not an acceptable form of photo ID.

    I mean I would have to be me to have got it in the first place. All the expired part does is invalidate it for travel, but it still is a legal form of photo ID isn't it?

    I am so fed up of casinos telling me it isn't an acceptable form of photo ID when I try to withdraw. I refuse to pay £76 to renew the passport, when it isn't necessary and I have no intention of going abroad.

    I am really sick of it, it really is the cause of much stress and angst for me. As a result, I won't be joining any more new casinos, I will just stick with the few reasonable casinos that have accepted it without any bother, sod the rest man ...

    Any casino reps that believe an expired passport isn't a legit form of photo ID, can you please explain why?


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    I'm with you Funky Seagull...I have neither a driver's licence nor a passport. I have no intentions of learning how to drive at the age of 46, and I refuse to pay $150 for a passport when I have zero intention of travelling outside of Canada. So, like you....I no longer play/deposit at any new casinos. It's all the same software to me anyway, and I'm treated well at the three I do play at....so why do I need to go anywhere else? I refuse to jump through hoops for people who have no problems taking my money no questions asked. They only have questions when I want some of my money back. THEN they have to have six forms of ID (picture included)....and now even photos of people standing in front of their homes, and holding their ID, etc. Ridiculous.

    Doesn't bother me really, as I have no burning desire to try out new places anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funky_seagull View Post
    I was just wondering if anyone can explain to me why an expired passport is not an acceptable form of photo ID.

    I mean I would have to be me to have got it in the first place. All the expired part does is invalidate it for travel, but it still is a legal form of photo ID isn't it?

    I am so fed up of casinos telling me it isn't an acceptable form of photo ID when I try to withdraw. I refuse to pay £76 to renew the passport, when it isn't necessary and I have no intention of going abroad.

    I am really sick of it, it really is the cause of much stress and angst for me. As a result, I won't be joining any more new casinos, I will just stick with the few reasonable casinos that have accepted it without any bother, sod the rest man ...

    Any casino reps that believe an expired passport isn't a legit form of photo ID, can you please explain why?


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    Are you playing at MG casinos out of interest? I've only ever really played at MG and I've had my fair share of withdrawals at most I've played at. I've never been asked for ID - even the one time I played, won and withdrew at Big Dollar, they didn't ask for ID.

    If it's MG you want, and you're in the UK - Ladbrokes is the place to go to IMHO. Only time I ever got asked for ID was when I transfered my winnings to my sports account and went to the high street bookmakers to withdraw it...which in all honesty is fair enough. Using that method gave me a withdrawal time of about 15 minutes lol, the time it took me to drive to the bookies.

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    One Casino where I came across this problem was at the 32Vegas (which I now don't touch since I found the rogue list!) where if you make more than two or three deposits, they require a deposit confirmation form signed as well which is a list of the deposits you've made. They accept scanned copies but not a camera picture where I write out all the damn deposits.

    Not owning a printer, I had to go to the library to print it out, sign it, then scan it and bring it home on disk. They also require front and back pics of each card and bank statements, and like Pinababy said, I was jumping through hoops to get money back while deposits took around 15 seconds!

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    Unfortunately an expired id is not considered a valid id anywhere. No banks or financial institutions will knowlingly accept an expired id to complete a transaction- it is one of the first things that they look for. I feel your pain, but I think they are just following industry standards.

    The reason most people do not accept expired ids is that say you lose your id and get a new one. Well then someone finds it and keeps using it eventually it will show expired and that is a red flag, because since they are not you they cannot get it renewed.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinababy69 View Post
    I'm with you Funky Seagull...I have neither a driver's licence nor a passport. I have no intentions of learning how to drive at the age of 46, and I refuse to pay $150 for a passport when I have zero intention of travelling outside of Canada. So, like you....I no longer play/deposit at any new casinos. It's all the same software to me anyway, and I'm treated well at the three I do play at....so why do I need to go anywhere else? I refuse to jump through hoops for people who have no problems taking my money no questions asked. They only have questions when I want some of my money back. THEN they have to have six forms of ID (picture included)....and now even photos of people standing in front of their homes, and holding their ID, etc. Ridiculous.

    Doesn't bother me really, as I have no burning desire to try out new places anyway.
    Hey Pinababy....OMG i am so glad you put this thread here because I, like you don't drive(wont allow me to cause i'm deaf) and have no intention of ever going abroad but Bellerock entertainment told me they had never heard of someone who has no photo i.d whatsoever.....my point was surely my bank visa card and the fact i am depositing from it with all the correct details is proof enough? Apparently not as you could be trying to win money for a complete stranger. Like you i have found some to be very helpful and some(bellerock) and others to confiscate you're winnings. Thank god for 32 red and betfred and Ladbrokes and in case you have not noticed these are the ones with a real reputation!!!!!!! Anyway i stick with 32 red now as i have and will never get issues with them. By the way can someone tell me how to start a post in here .....

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    I had a horrorable time the frist time I cashout from a reputable MG casino.
    I have photo ID, my driver's licence. Not only does it have my address, it has my SS# on it. They told me I needed a utility bill with my name on it. But all our bills are in my husbands name. I send a copy of my marriage licence & the electic bill (with hubbys name), they rejected it. I call and talked with a manger he told me to send in copy of last years tax returns. I was like HELL NO, thats non of your bussiness. After days of e-mails and talking for twenty plus mins. each time on the phone they finally excepted a copy of my car ins. card. I have cashed out many time since with no problems. I feel for you Funky. Here in Pa. for a $10.00 fee you can get a legal photo ID from our motor vehicle office, without having a driver's licence. Maybe where you live Funky they also have something like that.
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    I wish we had something like that in Ontario too. Our Health Cards are not meant to be used as ID, and until recently could not be accepted as ID. Not all of them have photos either...I'd still have an old red and white card if I had not misplaced it and requested a new one.

    I know that NewJersey has a non-driver's licence as well.

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    Sometimes trying to cash out can be a horrible experience. One online casino took me round and round for weeks... they wanted a bank statement (luckily, I do have an account w/only my name on it), but the bank statement had my full married name on it (first/middle/married name). My DL (at that time) had my name/maiden name/married name on it. ONce I finally got them to understand what they were looking at and why, then they got pissy because I blacked out everything except my name & address and the bank name on the copy of the bank statement... This was early in my gambling days and (after I got my puny little $150) I never gave them so much as a dime.

    re: expired ID.... I made the mistake of going to a land based casino a few days after my birthday and after I had renewed my DL. At that time, the DL office would give you a paper temporary license (with pic) and your old DL back, to use untill the real, laminated one arrived via mail from the state DL division. Even though the old DL and my new temp DL matched, I couldn't use it with my card to redeem comps -- until I realized I had my military ID with me (it was still up to date). And then we got into the different names thing again. (I go by and sign my middle and last name -- military required first name/middle initial/last name be on the ID card. And that casino was where we stayed and played 4 or 5 times a year for years! But MGM had taken over and after that fiasco (along with more unhappy experiences), we moved our play elsewhere.
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