One Million Reels BC $204,167.54 + was hit today

[Rusty]

Just One more thing that has not been mentioned, just in case there is still anyone out there who does not believe this was all premeditated.

Have you ever seen a Free spin bonus that makes you play max bet before?
Oh and to win the Jackpot you have to be bet max coins, fancy that.

As far as the weighting being changed as far as I can tell it is not even against their T&C's.
They do not stipulate how much of your stake goes toward the jackpot or what the probability of winning the jackpot are let alone whether the probability of outcome remains the same throughout the game.

I know I keep banging this drum but this is all basic information that should be available to the player under even the most basic regulations.
There is a reason for that.

A very loose calculation based on 1c going to the Jackpot total for each max coin bet and the start balance being $10,000 gives us,

(204k-10k) $194000/.01c = 19 Million spins.

That is pure supposition on my part but it may well be a conservative estimate because it is based on every spin being played at max bet ($3.75)

Rival could help us determine the true odds of the Jackpot being hit Twice in such a short period by giving us the relevant details.

This is very importnat because it really does bring up valid questions about whether the software was tampered with or even if it is rigged from the outset.

Look at this way,
A progressive goes many Millions of spins without hitting when One bright Day out of the Blue the Casino throws out a promotion.
This promotion seems very generous but forces you to play ONE slot only the progressive, not only that but they also force you to play on Max bet the only way the Jackpot can be won. Then they stick a max cashout rule on bonus meaning that if the jackpot is won they get to steal all that lovely loot.
Then just by coincidence a slot that has not hit for Millions of spins not only hits but it is on the same Day as the bonus is released and on someone playing the 10 Free spin bonus.

They then ask the winning (losing) player to do a promo and offer to treat him to $1000 of the $204,000 they intend to steal.

Is it April 1st?
What am I missing?
It is like an A to Z of rogueism and criminal behaviour all wrapped up in One putrefying bundle.

I am not going to post in this thread again unless something positive happens.

[NASHVEGAS]

This is why it is important to note that until proof of these allegations is provided by the plaintiff, presumably in court, it remains open to question.

But on the face of it I very much doubt that T2 Marketing - the plaintiff in the case discussed above - would make such serious and potentially injurious claims were they not convinced that this was fact, and provable at least in part by statements and documents from the Rival people themselves obtained in the course of the relationship with T.2.

And Silverstone - which is based in Folkeston, UK I think - could be part of an elaborate smokescreen.

Have you seen the exhibits???? Just curious......May want to practice your French, lol , as it took hours and persistence with the folks in Montreal

[NASHVEGAS]

Joyland Casino was already in the rogue pit when SylviaP hit her jackpot. And the casino was willing to conform with its policy of 9K per month. SylviaP signed on for these terms. Although the casino's subsequent offers of increased monthly payments in exchange for continued play was dodgy, its closing of SylviaP's account was outrageous and I'm sure terrifying for Sylvia. But I do feel the final sum received by the player was a reasonable lump sum payment of a 39 year monthly payment plan.

Mike took a free chip. If they had just paid him $375 and returned the jackpot to the pot, I'd have felt the same way, but thought it was a pretty crummy promotion.

If Irish Luck had returned the bonus to the pot, paid the player his legitimate $375 win, tossed him an extra grand to show how nice Irish Luck is and to advertise that you too could hit this fantastic progressive...if only he had been playing with a bonus free deposit, I'd have no problem with their handling of it.

Instead, I think that this promotion was designed so that Irish Luck (and therefore Rival) would find a means to keep the funds. If the weighting of the wheels was changed, do you think that Rival issued this same "update" to the Rival powered casinos NOT owned by the owners of Rival software?

The player's account has now been "reset", and he will not have the opportunity to generate comps with the jackpot as previously speculated. The offer now being presented by Irish Luck is much less favourable to the player, but still superior to a win of $375.00.

Clearly this jackpot win is in no way being paid to the player, so MUST be returned to the jackpot fund. Even if Irish Luck does this, I would still harbour doubts that this was truly their intention, and perhaps some scrutiny forced them to change their original plan.

I have my reservations about Irish Luck having made an appropriate payment from the free chip play to the jackpot pool as well, but this is sheer speculation on my part, possibly because of the questionable nature of the whole promotion. But I in no way want to say anything libelous here and violate the forum rules, and I am just conjecturing.

I had been missing Rival games, but I no longer believe in fairness there. I'm beginning to think that Canadian players may have been banned since we might have access to legal redress in Canada for these Canadian owned and operated countries, and contracts entered into would be enforceable under the jurisdiction of both parties.

This is not an isolated incident by any means.

I am not going to highjack this thread but for example they covered up a major Blackjack software malfunction where the HA can not even be determined. It probably existed from Day 1 until they corrected it in late October 2008 but denied the correction (aka existence of the malfunction per se) in order to not have to make the players whole. More details and a mountain of proof later but I normally do not double down on a pair of Aces,etc. HINT

[kmay87]

Just to chip in here, does anyone else find it rather patronising that the casino has asked for a statement from Mike about how he felt when he saw the jackpot hit?

What's he going to say..."Well I hit a 200k plus jackpot but I'm only going to see a grand, so it's not going to change my life."

I haven't gone through the whole thread, but I presume he was aware that he wouldn't be able to cash it out, so how can they expect him to boast about his win? To me, that's suggesting they want to pass this off as a legit win, otherwise if this was being returned to the pool there would be no winner, and thus no winner's statement.

Sometimes I wonder how corrupt casinos would be if it wasn't for forums such as this.

[slotsextra]

I do not understand the problem here what is wrong with this cool promotion from Irishluckcasino ? It is a good way to get some free cash................from the jackpots with some help from our valued players transferred to ILC........another blow to the gaming industry and sadly the bad PR that will affect both player and affiliate minds. I am going to blacklist this place and feed it to the dogs, my G. what a bad move and what kind of attitude they must have to do this. Thank G. there are some places to stop this kind of faul play.

[BingoT]

Well least we know they are here today.(IrishLuckCasino)
Please join in this thread I started that went crazy.
I was happy at first knowing someone hit it.
But after knowing about this crazy crappy fantastic progressive offer you made.And I never got that email but I really don't care anyways.
This thread will go back and forth until we hear the words from anyone form Rival to step in to tell us all.
Put the cash back in to the jackpot where it should go.
End of story.


IrishLuckCasino 07:25PM
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[bb28]

Well least we know they are here today.(IrishLuckCasino)
Please join in this thread I started that went crazy.
I was happy at first knowing someone hit it.
But after knowing about this crazy crappy fantastic progressive offer you made.And I never got that email but I really don't care anyways.
This thread will go back and forth until we hear the words from anyone form Rival to step in to tell us all.
Put the cash back in to the jackpot where it should go.
End of story.


IrishLuckCasino 07:25PM
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Does this mean you are going to stop promoting them?

BTW.....I've been following this thread all morning with a lot of interest and I don't really have anything to add other than give a to Pina and others...Pina said it so well.

I really don't see any way that Rival can clean this mess up, this thread and the Playtech thread has just left me so disgusted and bummed out that I'm done with playing online.

[KasinoKing]

Just One more thing that has not been mentioned, just in case there is still anyone out there who does not believe this was all premeditated.

Have you ever seen a Free spin bonus that makes you play max bet before?

Yes I have.
It was either 32Red or Ladbrokes (or both?) who did a similar promo for Mega Moolah once where the condition of receiving the bonus was that you had to spin at max bets.
Of course, there was no crazy max cash-out rule.

KK

[BingoT]

I do have this on my mind.
I will soon I think & know.
If this don't get fixed by Friday or if others say they will do it now I will do it sooner than Friday.
Will someone make a poll on this and make the deadline on a time Friday.
Or I just might say &%^% it and do it anyways because for the past few weeks I heard crap about them by a player that is a member here.

[RobWin]

Does this mean you are going to stop promoting them?

BTW.....I've been following this thread all morning with a lot of interest and I don't really have anything to add other than give a to Pina and others...Pina said it so well.

I really don't see any way that Rival can clean this mess up, this thread and the Playtech thread has just left me so disgusted and bummed out that I'm done with playing online.

BB, are you no longer an active affiliate? I still see your name in green but I was not quite sure.