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Just wondering if i should be betting 1 line or 3 lines or max lines and which slot would be better...considering tomb raider secret of the sword but if an expert here could tell me otherwise please reply
Results kind of speak for themselves,I was wondering if any of you "grind" out bonuses often and if so if a specific slot or game did it better for you.
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I'm sure KK will chime in here soon, but for me, I'd rather start out with larger bets to build a bankroll and take the chance of busting out early than to try and play 9+ cents a spin while watching your balance slowly work its way down to 0..Originally Posted by JackOfAllSuit
Just wondering if i should be betting 1 line or 3 lines or max lines and which slot would be better...considering tomb raider secret of the sword but if an expert here could tell me otherwise please reply
Results kind of speak for themselves,I was wondering if any of you "grind" out bonuses often and if so if a specific slot or game did it better for you.
I guess it all depends on your starting balance and whether or not you're in it for entertainment value or want to actually be able to meet the wagering and cashout
And by all means stay away from high variance games if you're trying to grind out a bonus. You'll go broke really fast.
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Would do the same as Winbig. Higher WR, higher initial betsize. And hope that you catch the positive variance early on.
If you could tell more. Like how high is the WR, what kind of starting balance and what software.
One way could be to divide your balance by 50 to 100 (depending on how much you value playtime) to get the initial betsize. Starting balance 200, betsize 2 to 4.
Most slot bonuses are -EV so you can only hope for an early big win and then lower the betsize.
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The purpose of "grinding out" a bonus is usually to keep variance low, so you increase the chance of retaining your bonus/winnings and reduce the chance of busting and losing your deposit. So ideally, you'd want a low variance game with a low house edge. Slots are generally a poor choice for this goal since they usually are high variance and have a high house edge. If the bonus allows not slot games with the same wagering, then I'd choose something else. If the bonus only allows slots or has greatly increased wagering for other games, then I'd choose a lower variance slot game. The lower variance games tend to be the ones without high paying bonus rounds or big jackpots. A smaller bet size (per line) also greatly reduces variances, more so than number of lines. Two-tier betting as described in posts above, may also be useful.Just wondering if i should be betting 1 line or 3 lines or max lines and which slot would be better...considering tomb raider secret of the sword but if an expert here could tell me otherwise please reply
Results kind of speak for themselves,I was wondering if any of you "grind" out bonuses often and if so if a specific slot or game did it better for you.
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Last edited by NewOrleans; 6th April 2009 at 11:30 PM.
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Actually, 30x is the norm for any MG clearpay bonus....gowild is the only one that I know of that is lower....a meager 29x.
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Hiya: Since i don't use bonus money, you should take my advice....hehehe ah hahahaha.
I would really check the terms. Some places will not allow table games to count towards wagering requirements. This is fine. Buuuuuuuut.....other places not only do they not allow table games to count, if you even play at a table game EVERYTHING is void, and you are cheating, and they can boot your arse.
So, "I", would make the max bet on faceup 21, or 2 dozens on roulette, or something like that to increase funs available to use. Then, i would grind it out on the allowed slots, ect.
Also, some places will let you do this, and cash out winnings, but NOT the bonus.
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Last edited by NewOrleans; 6th April 2009 at 11:30 PM.
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Hiya: Since i don't use bonus money, you should take my advice....hehehe ah hahahaha.
I would really check the terms. Some places will not allow table games to count towards wagering requirements. This is fine. Buuuuuuuut.....other places not only do they not allow table games to count, if you even play at a table game EVERYTHING is void, and you are cheating, and they can boot your arse.
So, "I", would make the max bet on faceup 21, or 2 dozens on roulette, or something like that to increase funs available to use. Then, i would grind it out on the allowed slots, ect.
Also, some places will let you do this, and cash out winnings, but NOT the bonus.
...and YOU would be at a much increased risk of having to make a complaint because the casino has accused you of "bonus abuse", and either had something in the small print, or their "F U Clause" to invalidate some or all of your bets.
The scope of what casinos call "bonus abuse" is now so vague and wide reaching that even avoiding table games is not enough. Recently, a player complained of being screwed over because they placed a big bet on "Penalty Shootout", a 12 to 1 against bet, won, then played smaller stakes to meet WR elsewhere. It seems that ANY strategy that involves highly aggressive opening bets followed by more of a "grind" is liable to lead to problems with some casinos.
ANY game that is "zero weighted", or "does not count", should be regarded as FORBIDDEN for ANY play with a bonus, and not even played AFTER WR have been met, since in a few cases winnings have been voided on the grounds that the restriction does NOT end when WR is completed, but after a withdrawal.
The only safe way to approach a welcome bonus seems to be slots, since it is almost impossible for a casino to "prove" any kind of "bonus abuse" has taken place if the player takes a case to arbitration.
One or two MGS casinos have terms that will VOID WINNINGS if a bonus is ground out on, say, 9c Thunderstruck spins using the "Autoplay".
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Well i decided to take a choice and NOT "abuse" because I do not want my winnings voided. I am sorry I started this post to find out how people do it I dont want to do it so i wont. best to play honest
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