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    Question 3Dice, virus???

    Hi, I launched the casino but is blocked, the virus finds traces! I removed and reinstalled but the problem persists!
    What to do?
    Thanks
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    Parpol, it's most likely just a false positive threat but here is some more info for you to check out.....

    Trojan-Dropper.Delphi.Gen Threat Display

    Copyright © 2009 Sunbelt Software.

    Trojan-Dropper.Delphi.Gen

    Name Trojan-Dropper.Delphi.Gen

    Type Malware

    Type Description Malware ("malicious software") consists of software with clearly malicious, hostile, or harmful functionality or behavior and that is used to compromise and endanger individual PCs as well as entire networks.

    Category Trojan Downloader

    Category Description A Trojan Downloader is a program typically installed through an exploit or some other deceptive means and that facilitates the download and installation of other malware and unwanted software onto a victim's PC. A Trojan Downloader may download adware, spyware or other malware from multiple servers or sources on the internet.

    Level High

    Level Description High risks are typically installed without user interaction through security exploits, and can severely compromise system security. Such risks may open illicit network connections, use polymorphic tactics to self-mutate, disable security software, modify system files, and install additional malware. These risks may also collect and transmit personally identifiable information (PII) without your consent and severely degrade the performance and stability of your computer.

    Advice Type Remove

    Release Date
    Last updated on Mar 23 2009

    File Traces
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    Quote Originally Posted by parpol View Post
    Hi, I launched the casino but is blocked, the virus finds traces! I removed and reinstalled but the problem persists!
    What to do?
    Thanks
    I have the exact same problem!
    I got on live chat to Enzo about it - he said just add it to my ignore list.
    But I didn't fancy doing that - so I deleted it.
    However, now I can't start 3Dice!

    This must be a recent change they did; it's my laptop where it wont work and I only downloaded a few days ago.
    On my PC, where I downloaded years ago, it works fine.

    Bloody annoying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KasinoKing View Post
    I have the exact same problem!
    I got on live chat to Enzo about it - he said just add it to my ignore list.
    But I didn't fancy doing that - so I deleted it.
    However, now I can't start 3Dice!

    This must be a recent change they did; it's my laptop where it wont work and I only downloaded a few days ago.
    On my PC, where I downloaded years ago, it works fine.

    Bloody annoying!
    Purveyors of legitimate software should make more effort to ensure their product does not trigger alarms with mainstream anti-virus products. While 3Dice might be trusted, it is always possible that some malicious hacker hacked their site, or even built a dummy version and used phishing, and tellimg players to simply ignore such alarms because they are bound to be false ends up making things easier for the malware producers and distributers.

    The cause may be the somewhat illogical insistence of foisting these "download managers" on us, rather than letting us use our native browser and/or OS functionality to download the entire installer. With each supplier having their own, often different, bespoke download managers, user's PC's can get bogged down with several of these applications. Some trigger virus alerts, but the others can simply produce instabilities in the OS, resulting in those rather curious errors that players post about - such as being unable to open the RTG cashier, when 99% of the rest of us have no such problems.

    The screenshot in this case seems to be one where access to the internet is being requested, but the 3Dice download manager having been mistaken for this trojan. These small casino download managers are executable files whose function is to connect to the internet and download the "big" program, and then execute it to install the casino. It is this "phone home" aspect of these applications that triggers anti-virus and firewall software to consider the program a potential threat if it resembles any of the malicious code fragments from it's detection database.

    If the casino is a trusted one, and you are SURE it came from the genuine website, i.e, you didn't find it through a link in a spammy email, it should be OK to "grant access" in these cases.
    Empty Fruities Astern Capt'n
    Back to port for unloading.
    Full Sails - before we get raided ourselves.

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    Especially vista

    it asks permission for everything

    which is cool, but it is just like any software

    exploitable, and someone, somewhere will exploit it

    Isn't it just a fact?
    Catrina

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinylweatherman View Post
    Purveyors of legitimate software should make more effort to ensure their product does not trigger alarms with mainstream anti-virus products. While 3Dice might be trusted, it is always possible that some malicious hacker hacked their site, or even built a dummy version and used phishing, and tellimg players to simply ignore such alarms because they are bound to be false ends up making things easier for the malware producers and distributers.
    Something I forgot to mention above, is I also got this virus alert when I tried to start a different casino (NOT 3Dice); i.e. When I tried to launch, it gave an alert to a virus in a 3Dice exe...

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    Hi Guys,

    This is a false positive that Avira reports on the 3Dice installer file. Other scanners Avast, Norton, AVG and Eset antivirus in their latest incarnations all declare the installer file clean. (and they all detect the Delphi.gen dropper). With the large amount of antivirus software out there it is unfortunately impossible for any developer to check for all potential false positives. We do our tests with the most commonly used scanners and even tho it is easy for us to guarantee that the 3Dice software is virus free - it is quite another story to be able to guarantee that no scanner software out there will show false positives.

    Since the false positive is only on the installer file - you can easily disable the scanner during install, then once you've installed delete the installer file (3Dice_mini_install_xxxx.exe) and scan your system again.

    As a sidenote, I hadn't heard of the avira antivirus before and in our tests we also noticed that it is quite a bit more resource-heavy (=slows down your computer) than the more popular and common scanners like e.g. avast (free home edition available).

    KK, if you are uncomfortable disabling your scanner during the install, you can also copy your "program files\3Dice casino" from your other machine as the 3Dice software should work without installation procedure.

    Kindest Regards,

    Enzo


    -- screenshot of AVG on the same file --

    3Dice - alea iacta est.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Dice View Post
    Since the false positive is only on the installer file - you can easily disable the scanner during install, then once you've installed delete the installer file (3Dice_mini_install_xxxx.exe) and scan your system again.
    Ok, perfect! Works. Thanks

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