My campaign to get Rival powered casinos on the accredited list.

[lee_bumble]

Why the hell aren't ALL Rival casinos on the accredited list.

They pay fast. The only slow withdrawal is the first one, which in my experience is 2-5 days. After that, when you have sent in your docs if needed it usually a few hours, at most 24-48 depending if its a weekend.

Decent customer service.

Decent bonuses. Play through not to extreme

The slots are pretty good. You got your low and high variances to suit different flavours of customers.

Table and speciality games are also quite good.

So it only leaves me the question why aren't Rival on the list.

downers:

I would like to see a play through meter of some sort on there.

So come on people:

I'm sure you have way more input than me so lets here it.

[GGW Laurie]

Why the hell aren't ALL Rival casinos on the accredited list.
They pay fast. The only slow withdrawal is the first one, which in my experience is 2-5 days. After that, when you have sent in your docs if needed it usually a few hours, at most 24-48 depending if its a weekend.

Decent customer service.

Decent bonuses. Play through not to extreme

The slots are pretty good. You got your low and high variances to suit different flavours of customers.

Table and speciality games are also quite good.

So it only leaves me the question why aren't Rival on the list.

downers:

I would like to see a play through meter of some sort on there.

So come on people:

I'm sure you have way more input than me so lets here it.

Ask our Canadian friends about Rival right now? A really good question Lee but i have to show solidarity for my Canadian forum buddies...........laurie

[jas2587]

I think it also has to do with the payout charts are never right

KK will know more


Cindy

Good answer Laurie

[winbig]

Or how about Rival instantly banning players for "bonus abuse" when they're lucky enough to win on a slots only bonus?

Sure, some Rival's will get you off this ban list, but I guess that fits into their motto:

"Guilty until proven innocent."

[Nifty29]

Or how about Rival instantly banning players for "bonus abuse" when they're lucky enough to win on a slots only bonus?

Yup, Im afraid that does it for me too.

I actually had a casino manager offer to reconsider my bonus banning IF I agreed to take a 100% bonus and WAGER DOUBLE the requirements to allow the system to re-assess my bonusworthiness(?). I politely declined. The same manager also stated that the system was not efficient and that it DOES in fact measure how much you wager beyond the requirement before you cashout.....interesting that when I stated that I always leave something behind to keep playing after cashing out (and inevitably lose it), the manager said that the system doesnt take that into account....which he and I both agreed that it should. If I cashed out right after meeting WR and walked away then I would have been better off, and in fact it wouldnt have made a difference to my bonus status so I may as well have done it lol. Also, I said there is no way for me to know how much I am over or under the WR anyway (without counting each bet which I wouldnt bother with) so the whole idea is ridiculous.

Just increase all WR by 30% and stop this stupid bonus banning system

The only Rival I might consider supporting for Accreditation is SlotoCash as they dont seem to follow most of the stupid rules and systems of other Rivals, and they pay ALWAYS within 24 hours and sometimes 2 hours! In comparison, I waited 6 days for my last Neteller cashout from Absolute Slots (not my first btw) which IMO is Absolute S*it. I guess at least I have a few more spare MBs now

[chuchu59]

I doubt whether this is the right time for accreditation bar Slotocash but this one too has dropped a notch due to it giving 5 days to Canadians initially to clear their balances. Though this has now been amended it does show they hadnt given much thought to their emails before sending them out.

For the other Rivals, other than the games not being fixed correctly, I am afraid that many of us still remembered what happened last year when payments were stalled for more than a month or so without ample reasoning. On the issue of bonus abuse, while casinos have the right to deny bonuses to anyone they wish, it is quite disgraceful that they rely simply on an outdated system where if you took some bonuses that reached their limit or if you just happened to play not much more than their required playthrough, you are deemed to be a bonus abuser and believe me, they are indignant about it.

While still a far cry from what occured last year, it does seem that many of them are using the 2-5 day processing time as a norm rather than the exception. If it hasnt reached the 5-day limit and you dare to ask them for the whereabouts of your withdrawal, you will get a retort where they ask you why you should be enquiring when the 5-day limit hasnt been reached yet.

Then there is also the issue of sudden withdrawal of bonuses which led to a player being refused his cashback despite having been eligible for it. The cashback was earned due to his previous play and nothing to do with offering him further bonuses. This is plain theft imo.

They should now devise a new system where continuous play without bonuses should render them eligible for bonuses again. I know that some of us will argue that this can only be given at the casino's discretion. However, the casinos should learn that they havent shed any transparency on this and prohibiting true players from bonuses esp those for their birthdays and festive occasions leaves a bad taste in the mouth. They should revise the system to consistently monitor deposits and play and render them eligible again where possible. Dont make us feel like criminals who are there only for your bonuses. They still come with a playthrough and in some cases are nearly impossible to meet.

[KasinoKing]

The only Rival I might consider supporting for Accreditation is SlotoCash as they dont seem to follow most of the stupid rules and systems of other Rivals, and they pay ALWAYS within 24 hours and sometimes 2 hours! In comparison, I waited 6 days for my last Neteller cashout from Absolute Slots (not my first btw) which IMO is Absolute S*it. I guess at least I have a few more spare MBs now

Yup - I agree about Sloto!
I've actually met the owner twice - though I didn't know it was the owner the first time: This person is from the north of England (Yorkshire area?) and is unbelievably down-to earth, honest & amicable. They actually sat outside in the rain in Barcelona with just me & a mate for over an hour just chatting & having a laugh over a few beers. When I found out it was the owner (and not just an affiliate rep as I had thought) at Bryan's party this week my jaw literally hit the table! But now I know why the players like the casino so much - honesty & no bullshit.
They are the only Rival (that I know of) who have their own money processor separate from all the others, and they either have or are shortly getting their own independent customer support too (in 6-7 languages!)
(Can't quite remember - I'd had a few by then! )

KK

[spiderlegz]

Also agree on Sloto, the only one I would consider.

The other ones, well thats another case. At least Bonne Chance Rivals are closer to roguedom than accreditation IMO.
At one point they bonusbanned all Finns but failed to update the T&Cs accordingly. They sent misleading promoemails like for example deposit and play x$ and get y$ on Sunday, of course you didnt get anything.
They have at least on 2 occasions had severe cashflow issues.

Edit: Still couldnt find anything mentioned in the T&Cs about players from Finland being bonusbanned. What a lousy group.

[zebedy]

yep i also agree about sloto i dont have anything bad to say about them and never heard of anyone saying a bad word about them, they give regular bonuses, pay fast,
the only problem i had with them wasnt really there fault, it was the support person not knowing what he was talking about,(shared support sucks) and a quick phone call from sloto soon sorted it out, and if they are getting there own independant support,

[RobWin]

Most of you guys are missing the bigger picture here, "Accreditation" is not simply a free listing at Casinomeister, the casinos that are on the "Accredited List" are also there because they choose to pay a fee to be listed there and more importantly they have passed Bryan's rigorous "Accreditation Process"

I would also guess that the fee associated with their being listed on the "CM Casinos List" is well worth the fees that they pay because of the notoriety and popularity of the "CM Accredited List", so in the end it gains the casinos many more customers by being listed on it.

I'm also purdy sure that there are a few good casinos out there in Cyberland that would also like that extra boost they could get from being on the "Accredited List" but simply do not want to or can not afford to pay the monthly listing fees for whatever reason.

I'm sure if I am wrong here that Bryan or one of the mods will set me/us straight on this here.

As a footnote before any of you guys wonder why Bryan would charge a fee to them, this site costs money to run and a lot I would imagine, if it were my site and it had been on the internet as long as Bryan has had this one up and had all of the expenses to maintain that Bryan does...I too, would charge them a fee to be listed here, nothing is free in the business world.