My campaign to get Rival powered casinos on the accredited list.

[soflat]

I'm no big fan of theirs anymore. If they want to be accredited, let them take up the cause themselves.

[classymom]

I'm no big fan of theirs anymore. If they want to be accredited, let them take up the cause themselves.

I am a fan of theirs, but that is a very good question - Why has not 1 Rival requested to be accredited by CM ?

[RobWin]

I am a fan of theirs, but that is a very good question - Why has not 1 Rival requested to be accredited by CM ?

You might find the answer in my post classymom...

[classymom]

Most of you guys are missing the bigger picture here, "Accreditation" is not simply a free listing at Casinomeister, the casinos that are on the "Accredited List" are also there because they choose to pay a fee to be listed there and more importantly they have passed Bryan's rigorous "Accreditation Process"

I would also guess that the fee associated with their being listed on the "CM Casinos List" is well worth the fees that they pay because of the notoriety and popularity of the "CM Accredited List", so in the end it gains the casinos many more customers by being listed on it.

I'm also purdy sure that there are a few good casinos out there in Cyberland that would also like that extra boost they could get from being on the "Accredited List" but simply do not want to or can not afford to pay the monthly listing fees for whatever reason.

I'm sure if I am wrong here that Bryan or one of the mods will set me/us straight on this here.

As a footnote before any of you guys wonder why Bryan would charge a fee to them, this site costs money to run and a lot I would imagine, if it were my site and it had been on the internet as long as Bryan has had this one up and had all of the expenses to maintain that Bryan does...I too, would charge them a fee to be listed here, nothing is free in the business world.

Oops - I guess my computer shot right to page 2- Thanks - good post.

[Nifty29]

Thanks Rob

On the subject of Rival, here is the latest offering from a new Rival.

Wagering Requirement: bonus x 50
Bonus wins may be cashed out only after meeting wagering requirement and making a deposit of $35. Max withdrawal for no deposit bonus is $100.
Bonus is not activated in table games and video poker games.

The way I read it, if you win and cashout on the freebie you wont be able to claim the 1st dep bonus - the software counts the # of deposits and it will disappear from the cashier. Not only that, but after you deposit the $35 does it mean you can withdraw $135?? What happens if you actually claim the 1st dep bonus on that $35?? If you lose all of it except $100, can you still withdraw it? (considering you won that with the freebie??). Another silly bonus setup

[solarrocker]

Not only that, but after you deposit the $35 does it mean you can withdraw $135?? What happens if you actually claim the 1st dep bonus on that $35?? If you lose all of it except $100, can you still withdraw it? (considering you won that with the freebie??). Another silly bonus setup

You can withdraw the win and deposit after you make the deposit if you have no promotion claimed on the deposit, if you do then you can only withdraw the win and have to play the deposit to be able to withdraw from that. At least that what I know, also I thought the deposit amount you had to do was $25 not $35, at least that what they told me the first time I withdrew from a no deposit promotion.

[chuchu59]

Thanks Rob

On the subject of Rival, here is the latest offering from a new Rival.





The way I read it, if you win and cashout on the freebie you wont be able to claim the 1st dep bonus - the software counts the # of deposits and it will disappear from the cashier. Not only that, but after you deposit the $35 does it mean you can withdraw $135?? What happens if you actually claim the 1st dep bonus on that $35?? If you lose all of it except $100, can you still withdraw it? (considering you won that with the freebie??). Another silly bonus setup

Nifty,

I noticed that too and in fact when I made my first deposit where I didnt claim any bonus , the offer disappeared in the cashier. However, I wrote them an email about this and the next time I logged into the cashier, lo and behold, there was a message for me stating that the 3 offers have been reinstated. I have already used one of them. Busted out though .

[LaHutti]

Also agree on Sloto, the only one I would consider.

The other ones, well thats another case. At least Bonne Chance Rivals are closer to roguedom than accreditation IMO.
At one point they bonusbanned all Finns but failed to update the T&Cs accordingly. They sent misleading promoemails like for example deposit and play x$ and get y$ on Sunday, of course you didnt get anything.
They have at least on 2 occasions had severe cashflow issues.

Edit: Still couldnt find anything mentioned in the T&Cs about players from Finland being bonusbanned. What a lousy group.

You can add Danish players to that .. how stupid !
Sloto is the only Rival that doesn't bonus ban danish players, or have double wr compared to people from other countries, before they even deposit and play (SLOTS of all games)for the first time, afaik.
Would make things easier if they just put it on their websites, that they do not wish to have danish players in their casino.

[vinylweatherman]

Most of you guys are missing the bigger picture here, "Accreditation" is not simply a free listing at Casinomeister, the casinos that are on the "Accredited List" are also there because they choose to pay a fee to be listed there and more importantly they have passed Bryan's rigorous "Accreditation Process"

I would also guess that the fee associated with their being listed on the "CM Casinos List" is well worth the fees that they pay because of the notoriety and popularity of the "CM Accredited List", so in the end it gains the casinos many more customers by being listed on it.

I'm also purdy sure that there are a few good casinos out there in Cyberland that would also like that extra boost they could get from being on the "Accredited List" but simply do not want to or can not afford to pay the monthly listing fees for whatever reason.

I'm sure if I am wrong here that Bryan or one of the mods will set me/us straight on this here.

As a footnote before any of you guys wonder why Bryan would charge a fee to them, this site costs money to run and a lot I would imagine, if it were my site and it had been on the internet as long as Bryan has had this one up and had all of the expenses to maintain that Bryan does...I too, would charge them a fee to be listed here, nothing is free in the business world.

I think this question has been raised before, and there is no fee simply for being accredited, however, accreditation comes with the right to advertise on the site, and it is this that comes with a fee. Charging a fee merely to be accredited would be a problem because it would create a conflict of interest, and prejudice the impartiality of the process. A casino can be accredited, but choose not to advertise on the site, presumably they would be choosing not to pay for advertising, but this should not mean that making this choice causes it to be removed from the accredited list. I expect the majority, if not all, casino that make the accredited list then pay for advertising banners on the site, so in this respect, "all" accredited casinos would end up paying a fee, making cause and effect somewhat confusing to interpret.

I expect Bryan, once again, can explain this when ICEi is over.

[RobWin]

I think this question has been raised before, and there is no fee simply for being accredited, however, accreditation comes with the right to advertise on the site, and it is this that comes with a fee. Charging a fee merely to be accredited would be a problem because it would create a conflict of interest, and prejudice the impartiality of the process. A casino can be accredited, but choose not to advertise on the site, presumably they would be choosing not to pay for advertising, but this should not mean that making this choice causes it to be removed from the accredited list. I expect the majority, if not all, casino that make the accredited list then pay for advertising banners on the site, so in this respect, "all" accredited casinos would end up paying a fee, making cause and effect somewhat confusing to interpret.

I expect Bryan, once again, can explain this when ICEi is over.

Yea, I agree on your points there Vinyl but if the casino is in the "List" of "Accredited Casinos" they are in fact advertising here (imo) as you can simply click their link and be led to their site, whether it be by Bryan being an affiliate of the casino or the casino simply paying the monthly fee to be listed here. And if there were "Accredited Casinos" that were not in the actual list here then how would anyone ever know that they were in fact "Accredited" if they were not in the list?

There are very few here that have any type of banner advertising, so we may be splitting hairs on this one, IMO. But as I said in my original post...

"if it were my site and it had been on the internet as long as Bryan has had this one up and had all of the expenses to maintain that Bryan does...I too, would charge them a fee to be listed here, nothing is free in the business world".