Originally Posted by
KasinoKing
The games you are talking about are Microgaming's "UK Pub Slots" - and just like real pub slots (or fruit machines as we call them) they are totally 'rigged' and not random at all.
Some of them can be 'forced' too -
but since they have player specific records you can't use this to your advantage because essentially
you are the only person playing each fruity on your account.
But there is no deception going on;
MG describe them as AWP machines = Amusements With Prizes.
I describe them as CRAP = throwing your money away.
If you want to have some fun with a genuine random chance of getting big wins, try their 5-reel bonus video slots!
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This SEEMS to have changed recently. I have had spectacular results TWICE (positive), and quite a few more times (negative) that refute this.
1) VIP Lounge. Having just taken TI, I played again, and within £400 it went TI AGAIN for ANOTHER big win (on £5). What I noticed was that it suddenly jumped from giving crap to offering a feature where it almost immediately landed on 250x and then TI.
2) 32Red. Playing at 50p per spin, and had probably put less than £300 through. Suddenly, it went to 500x cash. I killed the round on the next shot and took 8x cash. I then upped the bet to £1, and the very next board it went TI (just shouldn't happen). Not only did it do this, but it gave one HELL of a TI, with FOUR Jackpots, and numerous 80x and 40x hits. AGAIN, £2000+ from TI on £1 bet just SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.
3) In reverse. I have noticed that much more often it will NOT progress under force beyond 30 spins and 100x, even when absolutely STUFFED under "force". Taking the 30 spins is followed by it throwing 6 or 12 & lose, meaning the ENTIRE pot has gone, yet it has stored up under 50%.
Seems to me therefore, that some kind of "sharing" mechanism has been implemented, making these games even more like the real thing, and more "random" in a sense.
To test and prove my query, I downloaded some software that would slow down my computer and the programs, including ladbrokes casino, to a much slower speed. This therefore made the GeeGee's game, along with the feature board operate at a much lower speed. Essentislly I could stop the skillshots on whatever I wanted. So if the game was fair, I could stop on the maximum payouts time after time after time.
Obviously I don't condone using this software in "real mode", but I was in "free mode" and was curious as to the fairness of the GeeGee's game.
Paseo & others - can't see why not, what about players who have a slow PC anyway, they will have this advantage.
It's not an advantage anyway, since as you have discovered, they are all rigged. MGS should really make this clear, as they have NON RANDOM games in the casino, but one of the mainstays of player confidence is the RANDOM nature of the games.
Players who are not familiar with how UK FRuit Machines work will play these, see they are rigged, and then be able to PROVE it completely (because they are).
By far the most obvious proof is when you get the extra life, and it repeats the sequence 6,8,6,8,6,8,6,8 on the number reel till you lose. The chances of this hapening ONCE are tiny, but it happens EVERY TIME on TI.
Gee Gees - the jackpot is 2000x - the others are 500x, so of course the Gee Gees game has to take far more to deliver it.
I would suggest (in FUN mode), playing it at 10 credits until it offers the 250x win from nudges (refuse EVERYTHING), and then dropping the stake right down to 0.1 credits. You shoud see the jackpot shortly after.
MGS probably thought these games far too predictable for UK players, and no good for non-UK players who would be put off after getting consecutive crap feature boards.
In real life, Fruit Machines do the same. If one just offers nothing, players often come back later, and if someone else has played, it may be in a better "mood", offering better wins. UK players have been used to this since the 1970's, and this offers us a considerable advantage in understanding these games when they appear online.
They are rigged, but they are "fair" - they will, overall, return a set percentage. MGS have not revealed whether this is the standard 95%, or a different figure. Fruit Machines have traditionally offered a lower RTP than random slot games. Even here in the UK, the recent introduction of "video slots" (actually, bingo based games, not true slots), has seen these offering around 90%, whereas "Fruit Machines" offer around 70% - even in the same gaming area.
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