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    Those sessions are sweet indeed! Don't you just love it when you hit something all the time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    Last 2000 or so over 3 MG's

    Osbornes -----900+
    WhatOnEarth 100
    TwinSamuri 180
    Thunderstruck 170
    Thunderstruck 80
    Thunderstruck 30
    HighLife 20
    SupeItUp 300

    +255 since last feature.
    2More deposits and 413 spins without a feature on Summertime 55% (est)

    So that is now 668 spins on Summertime without a feature.

    Averaging around 300 spins a feature

    KK when was the last time you went 650+spins without a feature?
    As you can see I have managed it Twice quite comfortably playing min of 9 lines and 3 coins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    KK when was the last time you went 650+spins without a feature?
    As you can see I have managed it Twice quite comfortably playing min of 9 lines and 3 coins.
    Under normal circumstances I would never get anywhere near 650 spins without a feature before giving up & moving on to a different slot.
    My normal tolerance of pain threshold is somewhere round the 300 spins mark, often a lot lower.

    However in November playing Santa Paws every day for the scratchcards I went for 676 spins with no feature!
    But it's swings & roundabouts... Stats time again!

    Spins between features:-
    64
    676
    190
    164
    75
    64
    160
    5
    216
    209
    52
    208
    41
    210
    99
    101
    33
    + 180 spins at the end of the month without hitting the feature.

    Total spins = 2963 (including the free-spins)
    Features = 18 (16 + 2 re-triggers - counted as 2 features to get true odds)
    Average spins/feature = 165

    Best feature return: Bet x 159.4 (see winner screenshots! )
    Worst feature return: Bet x 20.8
    Average feature return: Bet x 65.78

    Despite that (and being £206 down after the first 11 days), I still managed to wager £1,580 throughout the month and come out the other end £19 up!
    On top of that I also got £160 from the scratchcards

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    My statistics today on "Ladies Nite".

    Take note of the number of spins played. I only got 1 feature

    I don't remember the exact point, but around spin number 250-260, so more than 900 spins without feature in the session and a 55% RTP.

    Is normal for this slot??

    I know 1200 spins is not enough in statistical perspective, but after reading this thread, I'm worried that somethig odd is going on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cesar View Post

    I know 1200 spins is not enough in statistical perspective, but after reading this thread, I'm worried that somethig odd is going on
    It is always the standard answer you get : not enough spins to be statistical relevant.Fact is that we never can play enough spins to prove there is something wrong .Unless in practice play, but I don't trust the figures generated by this play mode.
    My question is: Why do so many players complain now and not a year ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cesar View Post
    My statistics today on "Ladies Nite".

    Take note of the number of spins played. I only got 1 feature

    I don't remember the exact point, but around spin number 250-260, so more than 900 spins without feature in the session and a 55% RTP.

    Is normal for this slot??
    I know 1200 spins is not enough in statistical perspective, but after reading this thread, I'm worried that somethig odd is going on
    Sorry to say this, but yes, this broadly falls within what would be considered "normal", in the same sense that a retrigger within the 15 free spins is also "normal".

    Naturally, if this was EVERY DAMN SESSION, then it would NOT be "normal".
    The average is 150 spins between features (Zoozie came up with an accurate figure a while back).

    1000+ is pretty dire, yet this has happened to be at it's clone Thunderstruck. I upped the bet & got wild hammers (1500x line bet), and got back all the losses - I moved on, STILL without a single bonus round.
    What is even worse, is that MOST bonus rounds pay back almost nothing anyway, with an average of only 33x bet, and a variance that is sky high
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    My luck has improved the last couple of Days but if it had got any worse I would have got no features and no returns.

    Anyway after the summertime debacle I finally hit about $50 on the feature which clawed some of the losses back and then tried the new Christmas slot and hit a decent win on that so that probably pulled my payout back to around 90+% for Dec.
    I am still going long sessions without triggering features though I am wondering if MG has changed the variance but not the overall payout.
    Of course this would be impossible if the slots were not weighted.

    My last session:
    Avalon 645
    Sure Win 130
    currently 465 spins without feature.
    so 2 features in over 1200 spins

    For the record KK the number of spins is in between features and the slot is just the last slot I triggered the feature.
    So Avalon was actually 585 and I had gone 60 spins on another slot before that.
    I am calculating number of consecutive spins without a trigger all slots and I do not include bonus round triggers unless that is the main feature for the slot such as What on Earth.

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