issuing a challenge to 32red/mg

[just play]

I have no knowledge on anything you all are talking about, but......


Can't a casino just put in any number they want on a spreadsheet? (no disrespect to anyone)

[patrina]

Hey all. Path was kind enough to put these together for me, so here's the perc. for Dash & 32 Red, like I said, Dash and 32 Red have been the exceptions, now the other MG's well, we'll have to see if they get back to me?
Dash
Jan 08 86.64%
Feb 08 91.19%
Mar 08 89.14%
Apr. 08 80.0%
May 08 Nil Play
Jun 08 91.17%
Jul 08 73.14%
Aug 08 93.27%
Sep 08 97.54%
Oct 08 90.05%
Nov 08 98.06%

& 32 Red
Jan 08 Nil Play
Feb 08 Nil Play
Mar 08 80.79%
Apr 08 89.76%
May 08 47.13%
Jun 08 95.02%
Jly 08 83.95%
Aug 08 95.22%
Sep 08 100.66%
Oct 08 87.15%
Nov 08 86.16%

To tell you the truth, I dont know if this is bad or good? I dont really understand it all much. Anyway, I will copy the other ones when I get them, I am positive that they are 'not good' Take care all,
Patrina

[patrina]

Hey all, I received an email from casino rewards with regards to my request for percentages. I have accounts with 'all' their casinos so I dont know why it was sent like this, but does this make sense?

As a representative of the Customer Loyalty Team I have happily looked into your inquiry.



After reviewing your account, your total percentage payout is 93% return.



This based on your total payouts across all your casino accounts within the Casino Rewards group.


Patrina

[kimss]

To tell you the truth, I dont know if this is bad or good? I dont really understand it all much. Anyway, I will copy the other ones when I get them, I am positive that they are 'not good' Take care all,
Patrina

Well I can tell you, Except from Sept08 in 32Red you have never won on a month to month basis! Unless you wagered extremly high and much that month you slightly went out ahead with a little profit.

You had 100,66% payout, that means if your total wagering that month was $10.000 you won $10.000 * 0,0066 = 66 dollars. This in reality would translate to, say you started the month by loosing big - at the end of the month you would feel you accually won alot...

You are well under expected payout in both casinos, and only once did you win (and when you won - you won nothing!). That is what I read. :/

Cheers from Norway!

[patrina]

Well I can tell you, Except from Sept08 in 32Red you have never won on a month to month basis! Unless you wagered extremly high and much that month you slightly went out ahead with a little profit.

You had 100,66% payout, that means if your total wagering that month was $10.000 you won $10.000 * 0,0066 = 66 dollars. This in reality would translate to, say you started the month by loosing big - at the end of the month you would feel you accually won alot...

You are well under expected payout in both casinos, and only once did you win (and when you won - you won nothing!). That is what I read. :/

Cheers from Norway!

Thanks so much for that kimss, I have had trouble translating it into actual wins/losses. Now, that's one of the 'good' ones! So, you can imagine my frustrations. I am hoping RP sends me the percentages but I am not holding my breath! Thx again

Patrina p.s. I always bet .75 to 1.00 never usually higher or lower, the only time I bet lower is when, say, I have .50 left in my credits, then I dont have a choice.

[Rusty]

Hey all. Path was kind enough to put these together for me, so here's the perc. for Dash & 32 Red, like I said, Dash and 32 Red have been the exceptions, now the other MG's well, we'll have to see if they get back to me?
Dash
Jan 08 86.64%
Feb 08 91.19%
Mar 08 89.14%
Apr. 08 80.0%
May 08 Nil Play
Jun 08 91.17%
Jul 08 73.14%
Aug 08 93.27%
Sep 08 97.54%
Oct 08 90.05%
Nov 08 98.06%

& 32 Red
Jan 08 Nil Play
Feb 08 Nil Play
Mar 08 80.79%
Apr 08 89.76%
May 08 47.13%
Jun 08 95.02%
Jly 08 83.95%
Aug 08 95.22%
Sep 08 100.66%
Oct 08 87.15%
Nov 08 86.16%

To tell you the truth, I dont know if this is bad or good? I dont really understand it all much. Anyway, I will copy the other ones when I get them, I am positive that they are 'not good' Take care all,
Patrina

On the face of it they are very poor but I suspect not a whole lot different to many other peoples stats.
If you compare your figures to PatH's published figures you will notice they compare very unfavourably.

Have Dash or 32Red given you your overall lifetime slot % and total win/loss?
This would be more helpful as looking at individual Months (unless you wager the same amount in the same way each Month) can throw up deceptive overall results.

[patrina]

Ok, so here is the email from RP showing my percentages?

Dear Patrina,

Thank you for choosing Roxy Palace!

Management has reviewed the account and the payouts percentages are as follows : Roxy Palace (Last 6 months) 82.86% and Casino Splendido (Last 2 years) 80.03%.



If you have any further queries please don't hesitate to contact us.

We are here for you 24 hours, 7 days a week.

Sincerely,

Zain
Customer Support
Roxy Palace Online Casino
http://www.roxypalace.com


So, that's not good right? I have never won anything, that I know for sure.

Patrina

[patrina]

On the face of it they are very poor but I suspect not a whole lot different to many other peoples stats.
If you compare your figures to PatH's published figures you will notice they compare very unfavourably.

Have Dash or 32Red given you your overall lifetime slot % and total win/loss?
This would be more helpful as looking at individual Months (unless you wager the same amount in the same way each Month) can throw up deceptive overall results.

Rusty, do you mean the transaction logs? If so, I would rather copy them instead of asking Path again as I dont want to keep bugging (him/her?) 'Sorry Path, not sure of your gender?'
p.s. I pretty much wager the same way all the time, for a long time I couldn't get the software downloaded at 32 Red so was at Dash, then when I finally got the connection, I played at 32 Red for months, then went back to Dash after a little bit. Now I will bounce back and forth so to speak.

[Rusty]

Ok, so here is the email from RP showing my percentages?

Dear Patrina,

Thank you for choosing Roxy Palace!

Management has reviewed the account and the payouts percentages are as follows : Roxy Palace (Last 6 months) 82.86% and Casino Splendido (Last 2 years) 80.03%.



If you have any further queries please don't hesitate to contact us.

We are here for you 24 hours, 7 days a week.

Sincerely,

Zain
Customer Support
Roxy Palace Online Casino
http://www.roxypalace.com


So, that's not good right? I have never won anything, that I know for sure.

Patrina

That is not good at all but without knowing how many games(spins) you played and how much you change your stake (affects variance) it is hard to comment further.
It would be very hard to make a case for MG slots being 95%+ based on your stats alone so far.

[patrina]

That is not good at all but without knowing how many games(spins) you played and how much you change your stake (affects variance) it is hard to comment further.
It would be very hard to make a case for MG slots being 95%+ based on your stats alone so far.

I think this is what you mean? I "almost always" play Jellyfish jaunt, or Moonshine and when I play at Jellyfish jaunt I bet .75 at .01 coin size and full lines, when I play at Moonshine, I bet $1 a spin at .01 coin size full lines. I have a few other MG casinos I play at, but have only emailed one more "Fortune Room" I suspect it will be close to the same. There is only one casino, well actually 2 where I really did good. One time when playing Rivernile, and this happened all in one session, I logged on to jj, hit the 5 jellyfish girls, then went to cutie pie, got the 7's a # of times, then went to mardi gras and the same thing, hit the 7's, then went to couch potatoe and hit the blue '7's' and a couch and that paid (I think) $1200 I ended up winning at every game I played at, I believe I walked away with 3 k or more. I can't play there anymore because 'someone' decided to use my computer and charge a bunch of e checks and never gave me the $ so they bounced and so I can't play there till that's paid. The 'someone' had a few too many that night and I was sleeping, so anyway, lesson learned there Anyway (and I dont blame them) I wouldn't want to ask them to do this for me when this situation hasn't been dealt with yet. 'because I'm awaiting 2 settlements there is nothing I can do until next month' Ok tmi, I know, but it's all about honesty here right now. Thx
Patrina
p.s. The other casino I did really well at was casino Tropez, I played the dragon slot (not the actual name but I forget what it is called) anyway, hit the 3 dragons and it payed $1900, oh yeah and the first time I ever played was at Captain Cooks and I played Oceans 7's and won $2500 So, over the past 4 yrs? I think it's been? That is the most I have ever won. Otherwise a few hun here and there but that's it. That may seem ok to some, but not with the amount of deposits I have made. It's funny, whenever it is the beginning of a full moon, I am really lucky, coincidink? Dont know, but whether I play lotto, scratch tickets or slots, I'm usually lucky.