It just gets worse

[vinylweatherman]

VWM much appreciate dyour informative replies..forgive me if im wrong ok but "high variance" is this not just a way to say "low payout"..? cos even playing ther games like the sbournes,spring time i just keep gettin mauled also...as for the earlier comment above about some people complaining to much after a few spins..i like to think after 10s of 1000s of spins with not 1 decent win then i reckon im in a position to make a general assumption about mg casinos...they are never ever as good as they once were and i think id love to hear what any mg rep on here has t say ...

Variance is not the same as payout (or RTP).

RTP (long term payout), is around 95% for Microgaming slots.

Variance is a measure of how the RTP is met. A "low variance" slot will give repeated wins, but often these will be modest. With these, you should be able to achieve close to 95% over a relatively short number of spins, even though you are bound to lose in the end.

Low Variance slots are good for the "wager challenge" events, as they enable wagering to be accumulated with low risk. They are also good for making WR on a bonus, usually after a nice hit on another game.

A high variance slot will give far fewer wins, and you will see regular sequences of naked spins (spins with no payouts), and many of the wins you DO get will be modest.
Much of the RTP will be released on rare combinations, such as the 25x 5OK during a bonus round. You could easily hit 1000x or more the initial bet, but this has to be paid for by many many spins with a poor rate of return.

Playing with a lower stake gives more chances to hit the big paying bonus round before busting out. Thrill seekers can bet high, and may win a truly staggering sum if they are lucky, but most of the time they will bust out.

It should be possible to see what is the most you are likely to see by looking at the second and third highest paying wins, and seeing what they pay in free spins if they include a wild. For Thunderstruck (or any of the clones), this is 5OK Hammers or Shafts (second highest other than 5OK Thor), and in the base game would pay 750x line bet or 1500x line bet with wild. In free spins, this is 4500x line bet, or 500x spin bet. 5 Scatters will pay more, but is much rarer, and is not really a winline, however, it pays 500x SPIN bet normally, and 1500x SPIN bet during free spins.

For Example (5 scatter retrigger, plus some small change)

[Alexishot69]

Another great read vwm..i to be honest as ive said loads just play for entertainment but its getting harder and harder these days to find a casino where deposits of around £50 will last anytime at all and ive never won a bolt from any of these deposits..this is without one word of a lie the most ive been up in the past 2 days with over £80 deposited is 4p ok thats a modest sum compared to what some people play but do you think after 10s of 1000s of spins im just real unlucky?

[vinylweatherman]

Another great read vwm..i to be honest as ive said loads just play for entertainment but its getting harder and harder these days to find a casino where deposits of around £50 will last anytime at all and ive never won a bolt from any of these deposits..this is without one word of a lie the most ive been up in the past 2 days with over £80 deposited is 4p ok thats a modest sum compared to what some people play but do you think after 10s of 1000s of spins im just real unlucky?

It's MG - does seem tight these last few months. Even at 0.01 per line, I have seen Thunderstruck hoover up £50 in under 2000 spins - it is unusual, but it happens. Break da bank is going to be worse, even at 0.01 per line, however, even at this low stake, you can easily double, or even triple, your £50, and this should lengthen playing time considerably. Sticking to a cold slot is not the best way, but while it may be stone dead in one MG casino, try another with a small deposit, it may be hot there.

You could try splitting your £50 between 2 casinos, £25 each, and try your favourite slots to see which seems hottest. Return to the cold one another day, but of you get a decent hit, cash out the top slice, and leave behind what you started with initially. Hot casinos tend to go cold very quickly, and a decent win can be eaten up, whereas cashing out, and trying casinos 3 and 4 with it might be a better option, they may be hot too!

The Kasino King low roller strategies are worth a look, even though they are designed to make a small and regular low rolling profit, they can also be used to vastly increase potential playing time for a given amount of real money.

[Alexishot69]

This is my whole thing i honestly and have no reason to lie deposit 100s at 32red and with added bonuses youd think well hey in there must be a win maybe once..but its always a constant slaughter the reason i love it is the cs is brill and its as safe as they come... played ladbrokes before and slots were the same tight as a badgers butt..i just dont fancy moving elsewhere so heres the quandry do i move elsewhere and hope or do i keep playing till i surely must eventually hit something i mean im 29 and have at least another 30 years slots in me before my eyesight starts fading

[Rusty]

It is not your imagination they are much much tighter and I thought they were pretty tight before.
Here is my last session at MG.

First slot: Johny Specter over 350 spins to trigger the feature.
Second slot: The Osbornes
370 spins no free spins
212 spins to trigger the grab a gift bonus!

Bust.

So over 600 spins and 1 set of free spins triggered and hardly a bonus round in sight.

That is a pretty rough session but it seems to be the norm these Days.

[EasyRhino]

First slot: Johny Specter over 350 spins to trigger the feature.

I got 20 free spins on Johnny Spectre, and on my third spin ever, I activated the feature. So sorry, I think I used up your luck on that one.

[Josh66]

Hi all

Its been really interesting reading the above posts.

I am noticing a real difference this time around online, being back after a break. I spent over 300 quid last nigth and 500 last weekend. Maunly at Rival but also one RTG and one MG. Same results. little fun and quikly losing everything. I remember a couple of years back when I several times funded good holidays with winnings.

It would be interesting if we could set up a database of deposits/wins and losses. Amongst everyone here it would give some pretty enlightening info would it not?

Cheers

J

[kimss]

It would be interesting if we could set up a database of deposits/wins and losses. Amongst everyone here it would give some pretty enlightening info would it not?

That would be interesting - I could easily fund that project, make the database and GUI neededto collect the data. If people collected the playcheck data we could also make this available with accurate payout for alle people contributing such a project. Problem is, I fear, people are terrified in giving away the real deal - how much money they really loose online making it a good idea - however impossible in real life.

People rather cling to the hope of winning than looking at themselves in the mirror and admitting they are loosing. (OK KK, you are not in that sentence, )

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Last weekend at Casinomeister until Christmas!

[KasinoKing]

Glad to be honest in a way it aint just me thats feeling the pain...the game i normally pay is "break da bank" and it is at the mment only its mine its breaking..haha cmon gimme a break mg loosen even just the once

I played that game quite a few times when it first came out because I thought it looked quite promising... but I got totally murdered every time. It's extremely high variance IMO and now sits firmly in my black-list.

Right, if you want to win some easy, virtually risk-free money back follow these steps exactly to the letter!
1. Next Monday deposit £50+ at Ladbrokes.
2. Go to the Slots Cash Splash promotions page and claim the promotion.
3. Every day next week play one of the 3 designated slots at minimum coins/maximum lines until you have wagered £51 to £55 max.
4. DO NOT under ANY circumstances play ANY other games in the casino!
5. At the end of the week they will give you £70 with WR x 4, but you can meet this WR by playing the same promotion the following week.
Your expected average loss wagering £50/day is £2.50/day = £17.50/week.
Therefore your expected profit is over £50/week = £200+ per month.

In order to keep this money you MUST obey point 4 above; Do NOT fritter it away on other games because you WILL lose it. You could try their Scratchcard promo as well if you like, but this is much more risky and not +EV.

For the record, my previous 7-months nett results on Slot Splash:-
Apr +£87
May +£97 (Only played 2 weeks)
Jun +£341
Jul -£5 (Went a bit mad with crazy big bets! )
Aug +£141
Sep +£462
Oct +£314
Note: I don't play min coins/max lines - I use my progressive betting pattern.

Makes you wonder why they keep doing it really!
But I ain't complaining and hope this promo runs for ever!

[bakonlin]

The casino always give a wellcome bonus 100-400% of initial bonus,but must wagger in slot,why?because the casino sure will take it back plus the deposit.roullete,bacarrat give a chance to win,provided luck, calm,which i don't have.think it over