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Old 14th November 2008, 05:32 AM
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How do you make you money last at casinos?

Hi guys. Do you peeps have any tips on how to make your money last at online casinos? I deposit £70 and in 30 minutes its all gone playing minimum bets on the microgaming video slots.

It happened to me at this is vegas casino. I am tempted to just stick to sportsbook betting tbh.
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I wouldn't put 1 cent in microgaming casinos right now. From the looks of it they're on the verge of, or already have, lost a large part of their customer base in the US market and the machines are tight as ever.

The conspiracy is this started about a month and a half or two months ago. Microgaming knew they were about to practically drop all US players like a hot rock so they "did" something to all the slots where you couldn't win a dime on them, although they'll never admit it, you can tell something has changed when you play them. Sadly this not only affected US players but worldwide players too.

If I were you, I'd stick to the sports book or try one of the non-rogue RTG's.
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I wouldn't put 1 cent in microgaming casinos right now. From the looks of it they're on the verge of, or already have, lost a large part of their customer base in the US market and the machines are tight as ever.

The conspiracy is this started about a month and a half or two months ago. Microgaming knew they were about to practically drop all US players like a hot rock so they "did" something to all the slots where you couldn't win a dime on them, although they'll never admit it, you can tell something has changed when you play them. Sadly this not only affected US players but worldwide players too.

If I were you, I'd stick to the sports book or try one of the non-rogue RTG's.
Thanks. Is Intercasino an RTG casino? I remember I sunk £50 into Jackpot city last week and didn't win a dime in 50 spins. Not even 20 pence. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

I don't want to play at playtech as their video slots are boring as hell and lack variety. I might go give that casinomeister slot a whirl.
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Pinsnpies,

I am a little confused. This is Vegas is a Rival casino, not Microgaming. Intercasino uses Wagerlogic/cryptologic software not RTG software. The casinomeister slot is only available at intercasino at the present moment.

As for Playtech, personally I find the slots better than MG but they have banned both US players and also those from where I am living. The bets on progressives are the lowest on the net. A $0.25 bet on cinerama or $0.5 on Wall Street could fetch you a progressive in the region of several hundred thousands.

If you want extended play, look for those slots with low variance. I am pretty sure that with minimum bets your $70 will last a lifetime at Skullduggery (Microgaming). Definitely one with a very low variance.
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Pinsnpies,

I am a little confused. This is Vegas is a Rival casino, not Microgaming. Intercasino uses Wagerlogic/cryptologic software not RTG software. The casinomeister slot is only available at intercasino at the present moment.

As for Playtech, personally I find the slots better than MG but they have banned both US players and also those from where I am living. The bets on progressives are the lowest on the net. A $0.25 bet on cinerama or $0.5 on Wall Street could fetch you a progressive in the region of several hundred thousands.

If you want extended play, look for those slots with low variance. I am pretty sure that with minimum bets your $70 will last a lifetime at Skullduggery (Microgaming). Definitely one with a very low variance.
This newbie needs an education

This is the right place for it

For starters, look on the menu bar and find "CM Casinos". These casinos have passed a rigorous vetting process to get there, and ther is a route to pursue complaints through this form (known as PAB, or Pitch A Bitch) when things go wrong. In addition to this, many casinos, even those not on this list, have a fairly high ranking "rep" as a member, where complaints can be escalated past normal front line CS.

As a Welsh player, Pinsnpies can play at nearly every online casino, even the bad ones.

For getting £70 to last more than 10 seconds, the low rolling strategy of Kasino King is my recommendation. This relies heavily on getting value from slots play, including the use of casino promotions to increase both playing time, and chances of winning.

While playing a "low variance" slot will give you more playing time, there is the small matter of determining which slots these are, looks can be deceptive (and this is no accident ). One might think that the MG slot Cashapillar with 100 lines is super low variance, but you would be wrong.
MG slots such as THunderstruck are NOT low variance by any means, and the minimum stake of 9pence is still high enough to see off £70, although most likely in hours rather than minutes. It might be a case of playing the wrong kind of slot. Some of the older slots such as 5 Reel Drive may well be lower variance than the likes of Thunderstruck, however the have a very high minimum bet, and in most MG casinos, this is 25p per line, making it £2.25 per spin, now this WILL see off £70 in under a minute if it is on a bad run. Worse still, these old video slots are WEIGHTED (or "rigged" if you prefer). In particular, if you play LESS than the maximum number of lines, your return can go as low as 88%, even though the slots are SUPPOSED to pay 95%. This is because of the weighting, it favours the higher numbered winlines, so not betting on these goes against you. It is ONLY possible to bet on higher winlines by betting on all the lower ones, so you cannot bet, say, on lines 6 through to 9 and not bet on 1 through to 5.

Playtech, although "crap", seem to have much lower variance slots than Microgaming, and playing at 1p per line here can have you going for hours, even days.

Intercasino is Cryptologic (Wagerlogic), however it is strongly suspected that their slots pay out at around 90% rather than the 95% of other softwares. Many of their games also have a rather high minimum bet as the min coin is 5p, or even 10p. Some though, offer 1p, and this allows for suitable low rolling with £70.

Intercasino also offer a £65 for £65 bonus every month to existing players, which is enough to get £130 worth of credits and £5 change from a £70 deposit. £130 will last twice as long as £65, although you will have to play a certain amount before being allowed to withdraw anything (for slots, this is 18x the £65 - but there is a neat tracking tool). There are additional promotions through the month, as well as a tournament section, which for the UK Pound casino often has few participants, and greater chance therefore of winning.

Wagerworks and Rival, well I have not tried them, but they have their fans, as well as critics.

There are quite a few NEW softwares popping up, some are OK, others not so. There is a rogues gallery of "cheating" software, and these should be avoided since the "cheating" usually means that the operator can rig the games in order to guarantee a profit, or in other words, guarantee the player loses overall, however lucky or good they are.
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you could try opening up an account in us dollars rather than pounds, check t&cs first or email support to see if this is ok with them

althought with the pound doing so bad it might not be long until even this wont be worth doing £70=$103 with a 100% bonus it will stretch your balance to give some extra playtime,
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Hi guys. Do you peeps have any tips on how to make your money last at online casinos? I deposit £70 and in 30 minutes its all gone playing minimum bets on the microgaming video slots.

It happened to me at this is vegas casino. I am tempted to just stick to sportsbook betting tbh.
If you want to make money last longer, you could choose lower variance games, use a smaller bet size, choose slower playing games (for example, solitaire), or take bonuses. Note that slots are one of the highest variance games in the casino.
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This newbie needs an education

This is the right place for it

For starters, look on the menu bar and find "CM Casinos". These casinos have passed a rigorous vetting process to get there, and ther is a route to pursue complaints through this form (known as PAB, or Pitch A Bitch) when things go wrong. In addition to this, many casinos, even those not on this list, have a fairly high ranking "rep" as a member, where complaints can be escalated past normal front line CS.

As a Welsh player, Pinsnpies can play at nearly every online casino, even the bad ones.

For getting £70 to last more than 10 seconds, the low rolling strategy of Kasino King is my recommendation. This relies heavily on getting value from slots play, including the use of casino promotions to increase both playing time, and chances of winning.

While playing a "low variance" slot will give you more playing time, there is the small matter of determining which slots these are, looks can be deceptive (and this is no accident ). One might think that the MG slot Cashapillar with 100 lines is super low variance, but you would be wrong.
MG slots such as THunderstruck are NOT low variance by any means, and the minimum stake of 9pence is still high enough to see off £70, although most likely in hours rather than minutes. It might be a case of playing the wrong kind of slot. Some of the older slots such as 5 Reel Drive may well be lower variance than the likes of Thunderstruck, however the have a very high minimum bet, and in most MG casinos, this is 25p per line, making it £2.25 per spin, now this WILL see off £70 in under a minute if it is on a bad run. Worse still, these old video slots are WEIGHTED (or "rigged" if you prefer). In particular, if you play LESS than the maximum number of lines, your return can go as low as 88%, even though the slots are SUPPOSED to pay 95%. This is because of the weighting, it favours the higher numbered winlines, so not betting on these goes against you. It is ONLY possible to bet on higher winlines by betting on all the lower ones, so you cannot bet, say, on lines 6 through to 9 and not bet on 1 through to 5.

Playtech, although "crap", seem to have much lower variance slots than Microgaming, and playing at 1p per line here can have you going for hours, even days.

Intercasino is Cryptologic (Wagerlogic), however it is strongly suspected that their slots pay out at around 90% rather than the 95% of other softwares. Many of their games also have a rather high minimum bet as the min coin is 5p, or even 10p. Some though, offer 1p, and this allows for suitable low rolling with £70.

Intercasino also offer a £65 for £65 bonus every month to existing players, which is enough to get £130 worth of credits and £5 change from a £70 deposit. £130 will last twice as long as £65, although you will have to play a certain amount before being allowed to withdraw anything (for slots, this is 18x the £65 - but there is a neat tracking tool). There are additional promotions through the month, as well as a tournament section, which for the UK Pound casino often has few participants, and greater chance therefore of winning.

Wagerworks and Rival, well I have not tried them, but they have their fans, as well as critics.

There are quite a few NEW softwares popping up, some are OK, others not so. There is a rogues gallery of "cheating" software, and these should be avoided since the "cheating" usually means that the operator can rig the games in order to guarantee a profit, or in other words, guarantee the player loses overall, however lucky or good they are.
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