Need help with honest USA casinos (Roulette)

[Brad11762]

Hi every one!
I spent a couple of hundred houars literally working on playing roulette and got to where I could consistently do $150. an hour in free play mode. so feeling confident that I had it down deposited $120. in VIPSLOTS and switchd to real money and imeidiatley within first 10 spins had 4 0's come up so I decided to test in a way that wouldn't cost me Much money. $1.00 on black without increasing and it hit red 23 times straight until on the 24th spin i switched to red and it hit black. so I switched back to free play and experienced nothing unusual switched again back to real money and tested again with with same results. I ended up switching back and forth a few more times and would have great results on the free play and felt like i was being attacked on the real money side. Decided to quit when I had 666 come up twice in 10 spins.
I understand that accasionally there will be a run of bad luck and then there is cases where it seems like it's playing against you.
So here is the question does anyone know of USA sites for roulette that the free play and the real Money side play the same (fair)
Thanks
Brad
PS I have had a back injury that keeps me from work so I badly need to make this work

[Simmo!]

I would have thought Microgaming Roulette would be pretty solid - of course the trouble is your options in the USA are somewhat more limited (understatement!) than they were this time last week. But the free-play versions are still available to you.

Clearly you want o be playing European Roulette rather than American Roulette (0 vs 00) and the few reputable RTG casinos on the accredited list will have this. And for what it's worth, I don't believe RTG Roulette is rigged

[SteveCut]

Hi Brad

I don't know if the real-money play was fair or not, but there have certainly been instances in the past where free-play is fixed to allow the user to win, thus sucking players in to play with real money.

Michael Shackleford has investigated at least one such case (see quote):
http://wizardofodds.com/askthewizard/104

To answer your question I gave Netgaming a try. In their single zero roulette game I placed 200 bets on red. My results were 133 wins and 67 losses. The probability of 133 or more wins in 200 spins is 1 in 3,788,515. So obviously they were letting me win. Let the record show I do not approve of manipulating the odds for any reason. So to Netgaming.com, and any other casinos that do this, I say shame on you. For this and other reasons I have added the software provider Elka System Casinos/Oyster Gaming to my blacklist.

Maybe you could try free-play again for an extended period, record the results and send them to the Wizard for analysis?
Regards
Steve

BTW. there is no system or staking plan that can give you positive expectation in roulette.

[KasinoKing]

Hi every one!
So here is the question does anyone know of USA sites for roulette that the free play and the real Money side play the same (fair)
Thanks
Brad
PS I have had a back injury that keeps me from work so I badly need to make this work

Welcome to the forum.

You wont find many roulette players here - not even me! (I do like the game, but it doesn't usually count in bonus wagering & it's not as much fun as slots!)

You are basically left with 3 main softwares in the USA; RTG, Rival & 3Dice (plus some minor, possibly dodgy ones).
I personally would trust all of these to provide fair games, but with RTG you need to be very wary of rogue operators. Also I don't believe RTG has the facility for players to view their spin history do they? (You might want this if you think you're getting un-fair results). Also their roulette looks & plays horrible - so I would chose one of the other two if it were me.

Having said all that, I am very worried by your PS; Literally millions of people have tried for decades to 'beat' roulette - and none have succeeded yet.
You can not defy the laws of mathematics any more than you could defy the laws of gravity!
What I'm saying is, no matter how good your system is, it will not work long term.
You probably wont believe that right now, so I'll just say please take care & do not invest more than you are prepared & can fully afford to lose.

KK

[EasyRhino]

I'll reiterate KK. Roulette is a game with lots of betting options, but a really high house advantage. I suspect it was invented solely to take money from system players.

If you play microgaming roulette, on autplay, with zero time in between spins, and stare at it long enough, you're going to see numbers get repeated in quick succession a lot. And you're going to see a lot of red/black/zero in a row. I can't guarantee that it's not "overly streaky" but it still works out to the same house advantage in the end.

[mercy]

Keep your money and go to a land based casino.

[brianzz]

The only thing that bothers me about the OP is the last line..

PS I have had a back injury that keeps me from work so I badly need to make this work

All casino games are a game of chance and the most likely result is you'll lose, especially in the long run. If you need this money for other things the last place I'd put it is in a casino hoping to double or triple your investment because as I said earlier, there's a 99% chance that you will lose it all.

[EasyRhino]

I missed that last part as well. This is not going to end well.

Brad, just in case I wasn't clear earlier: You. Won't. Win.