Barcelona - Questions and comments for industry folk

[The Dude]

I'm heading out the door in less than an hour heading to Barcelona for the week.

I'm attending and speaking at both conferences

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I'lll be in touch with a hell of a lot of industry folk - everyone from software providers, legal experts, affiliate managers, casino operators, and perhaps a few roguish ones as well

Now's your chance to ask questions or make comments you'd like me to pass on. Post them here

 

[oyw7862]

I wonder that did MG change things on slots during past few updates as many peope had the feeling when they played? Thanks in advance.
Ref: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/thinking-somethings-changed-at-microgaming.26802/

 

[DiamondGeezer]

One question I have always wondered about is why so little design input goes into the average affiliate site?

 

[RobWin]

Point the RTG Reps in the direction of the "RTG Poll" HERE and ask them if they really think they are fooling us Casinomeister Members here that voted "Yes" in the poll, that we believe something has significantly changed with the way that "Their" software is playing this year as compared to previous years !!

 

[GaryWatson]

How would you word it? "Excuse me Sir/Madam. Since the UIGEA started screwing you, did you decide to squeeze the players at every opportunity?"

Diamond Geezer, often good design comes with slow loading speeds. A balancing act is required. Flash designs and javascripts do terribly in search engines, although I agree, some casino sites are nothing more than banner farms.

 

[RobWin]

How would you word it? "Excuse me Sir/Madam. Since the UIGEA started screwing you, did you decide to squeeze the players at every opportunity?"

Yea, that would definitely be a start there Gary, I do hope that Bryan takes this issue serious considering the number of forum members that believe it so !!

 

[Rusty]

As far as I know there is still not One online Casino licensed by the UKGC with its servers based in the UK.
Sure tax is an issue but B&M Casinos make very nice profits with much larger overheads.

Surely someone is missing a trick here.
Can you imagine how a Casino and software could exploit the fact that they are the First/Only Casino to be fully regulated in the UK through proper marketing.
and best of all they will always be the first, the prestige and validity that would bring to a Casino and software must be very marketable both short and long term.
My question is why has it not happened yet and are there any plans in the future from One of the main software providers to makes this happen?

 

[GrandMaster]

As far as I know there is still not One online Casino licensed by the UKGC with its servers based in the UK.
Sure tax is an issue but B&M Casinos make very nice profits with much larger overheads.

Surely someone is missing a trick here.
Can you imagine how a Casino and software could exploit the fact that they are the First/Only Casino to be fully regulated in the UK through proper marketing.
and best of all they will always be the first, the prestige and validity that would bring to a Casino and software must be very marketable both short and long term.
My question is why has it not happened yet and are there any plans in the future from One of the main software providers to makes this happen?

Why would a casino voluntarily pay 15% tax instead of 1% or less that they can pay in places like Gibraltar, Malta, or Alderney? As long as a large number of players are happy to sign up at dodgy RTGs based in Central America without reading the T&C just because they offer 1000% bonuses, there is no business case for moving to the UK.

 

[zebedy]

a central database for the id you have to send into casino's so you dont have to send it each time you cash out from a casino,
something where all the casino's sign up to and also the players signs up to

when youve signed up with that central database your given a unique code/number
then when you put in for a cashout you just supply your number then the casino can cross check it against the database,

it would cut out all the problems and excuses re not payment for unclear or dodgy documents

just an idea that will need to be thought out in more detail

 

[Rusty]

Why would a casino voluntarily pay 15% tax instead of 1% or less that they can pay in places like Gibraltar, Malta, or Alderney? As long as a large number of players are happy to sign up at dodgy RTGs based in Central America without reading the T&C just because they offer 1000% bonuses, there is no business case for moving to the UK.

I could not diagree with you more the Kudos and marketing opportunities would offset the tax burden and they could use that to market other Casinos that use the software that are not in the UK.
It is a million dollar idea waiting to happen, but I give it to them for free.

 

[vinylweatherman]

How would you word it? "Excuse me Sir/Madam. Since the UIGEA started screwing you, did you decide to squeeze the players at every opportunity?"

Diamond Geezer, often good design comes with slow loading speeds. A balancing act is required. Flash designs and javascripts do terribly in search engines, although I agree, some casino sites are nothing more than banner farms.

I would word it the same, but in Norwegian

 

[GrandMaster]

I could not diagree with you more the Kudos and marketing opportunities would offset the tax burden and they could use that to market other Casinos that use the software that are not in the UK.
It is a million dollar idea waiting to happen, but I give it to them for free.

Go ahead and show the world how it's done then. Rustycasino.com is available.

 

[Rusty]

Go ahead and show the world how it's done then. Rustycasino.com is available.

Has a ring to it

Seriously though I honestly believe it would generate a lot more for a software provider than the extra 15% profit required to cover the tax burden.

 

[DiamondGeezer]

Has a ring to it

Seriously though I honestly believe it would generate a lot more for a software provider than the extra 15% profit required to cover the tax burden.

I think it is an excellent idea. I can see why Lads and Will Hill don't because they have the clout of a big company behind them. But for a start up it could work. Mansion wasted 20m signing a 3 year sponsorship with Spurs and still they have zero name recognition in this country. If they had based themselves here and got a UK license they could have built the brand for 5m instead of the 20m they wasted.

You would think the Tote would at least have the decency to get a Uk license

 

[RobWin]

I'm heading out the door in less than an hour heading to Barcelona for the week.

I'm attending and speaking at both conferences

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I'lll be in touch with a hell of a lot of industry folk - everyone from software providers, legal experts, affiliate managers, casino operators, and perhaps a few roguish ones as well

Now's your chance to ask questions or make comments you'd like me to pass on. Post them here

So are you back yet, was you able to get us any answers to our questions here ??

 

[Rusty]

Will there be a seperate thread regarding news from Barcelona?

 

[The Dude]

Actually, I'll be posting most of this in my write-up in the newsletter. (gives you incentive to sign up )

Spoke with the people from Microgaming. They said that there have not been any changes in the software since the UIGEA - this was the first they heard of anyone complaining, they'll be investigating this. They were also checking into the Mega - Moolah thing as well.

Had a rather interesting time. I even met Montel Williams (who's a big poker player). We had a rather private conversation for a couple of hours in his Hotel's upstairs cafe - turns out he was in the military around the same time I was - so we traded war stories and such. Really a cool guy

More in this week's newsletter

 

[Rusty]

Rassamfassam Newsletter

 

[LaurieJim]

Actually, I'll be posting most of this in my write-up in the newsletter. (gives you incentive to sign up )

Spoke with the people from Microgaming. They said that there have not been any changes in the software since the UIGEA - this was the first they heard of anyone complaining, they'll be investigating this. They were also checking into the Mega - Moolah thing as well.

Had a rather interesting time. I even met Montel Williams (who's a big poker player). We had a rather private conversation for a couple of hours in his Hotel's upstairs cafe - turns out he was in the military around the same time I was - so we traded war stories and such. Really a cool guy

More in this week's newsletter

thats so cool you got to hang out with montel williams, he does such awesome work here for folks that cant afford medicines, just a great human being all around, was he not a lawyer or such while in the military, i cant remember......................laurie

 

[The Dude]

thats so cool you got to hang out with montel williams, he does such awesome work here for folks that cant afford medicines, just a great human being all around, was he not a lawyer or such while in the military, i cant remember......................laurie

He was in the Marines and Navy for 19 years. He worked as a language specialist and in special ops. Interesting guy. Funny thing was that not many people knew who he was...except me and a handful of Americans. It was cool having some private time with the guy.

 

[Rusty]

I didn't realise I could access the newsletter from this forum.
I just read it for the first time.
I have changed my mind about Newsletters, well this one anyway.
This site just gets better and bettr the more you explore.

Can I retract my Rassumfassam?
If so, I do

 

[vinylweatherman]

Actually, I'll be posting most of this in my write-up in the newsletter. (gives you incentive to sign up )

Spoke with the people from Microgaming. They said that there have not been any changes in the software since the UIGEA - this was the first they heard of anyone complaining, they'll be investigating this. They were also checking into the Mega - Moolah thing as well.
Had a rather interesting time. I even met Montel Williams (who's a big poker player). We had a rather private conversation for a couple of hours in his Hotel's upstairs cafe - turns out he was in the military around the same time I was - so we traded war stories and such. Really a cool guy

More in this week's newsletter

.... and if they say nothing changed, their reputation will be down the crapper

Mega Moolah was just too obvious to explain away by "variance", don't even THINK of trying it MG.

If it was a cock-up, say so, apologise, and mend it (like last time - with the wheel movie). An EXPLANATION of what happened would help.

 

[RobWin]

.... and if they say nothing changed, their reputation will be down the crapper

Mega Moolah was just too obvious to explain away by "variance", don't even THINK of trying it MG.

If it was a cock-up, say so, apologise, and mend it (like last time - with the wheel movie). An EXPLANATION of what happened would help.

Yea, and the same goes for RTG software and its operators but their reputation is already half way down the crapper anyway..., I hope Bryan had a chance to talk to them too since I posed the question here early for him to ask as also 60% of the folks here at Casinomeister that voted in the "RTG Poll" also think that RTG and its operators are playing different and are paying out tighter this year than they have in the past and we deserve an honest answer from them on this issue...I mean really can 60% of the folks that voted in that RTG Poll be wrong and it's just all in our head...nothing has changed...I don't think so...

 

[retlaw]

Spoke with the people from Microgaming. They said that there have not been any changes in the software since the UIGEA - this was the first they heard of anyone complaining, they'll be investigating this. They were also checking into the Mega - Moolah thing as well.

Tell them they lie

This message I received 19th September from a trustworthy casino rep :

I have just come off yet another call with MG about Mega Moolah and this is what I have been able to find out thus far.

The new jackpots are real, thats for sure. The overall gameplay and, critically, the theoretical payout percentage across the whole game have not changed in any way, shape or form. The frequency of hit particularly at the mini and minor level has reduced and hence the value of the jackpot has increased well above the levels that we are all used to!


We are still talking with MG so as to understand if this is a permanent change and most importantly why nobody was informed about it; as soon as I have the definitive answer Ill let you know.

 

[The Dude]

I'll be following up with the MGS folks this week. As for RTG, I didn't see hide or hair of anyone. I spent a little time with one of the operators (Club World), but no one was them from RTG that I'm aware of.

Which is a real shame. They used to have a rather high profile at these events which made it easy to discuss/solve player issues and to get some insight on their company plans.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Tell them they lie

This message I received 19th September from a trustworthy casino rep :

I have just come off yet another call with MG about Mega Moolah and this is what I have been able to find out thus far.

The new jackpots are real, thats for sure. The overall gameplay and, critically, the theoretical payout percentage across the whole game have not changed in any way, shape or form. The frequency of hit particularly at the mini and minor level has reduced and hence the value of the jackpot has increased well above the levels that we are all used to!


We are still talking with MG so as to understand if this is a permanent change and most importantly why nobody was informed about it; as soon as I have the definitive answer Ill let you know.

Well, it's now the 30th, and MG are STILL not going to make a formal announcement on this. It looks like this casino had to literally DRAG even this limited response from MG and STILL has to get more out of them.

This is utter bullshite, MG must have known EVERYTHING about this, and for some time before the "patch" was implemented.
Did they really believe there was no need to tell anybody since we wouldn't notice

The conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day with this revelation. What ELSE are they failing to announce, and are waiting for someone to have the wit (and evidence) to DRAG a statement out of them. We cannot even know for sure whether the game RTP has changed either way as a result of this, we are supposed to take them at their word

If MG want to be believed, they need to be more open. Give out more detailed figures, and let the mathematicians loose on them (or would that be LOSE on them eh KK).

For example, to calculate the proper RTP for Mega Moolah, we need to know the OLD chances of triggering the wheel per credit bet, and the chances within that of winning each of the pots per spin of the weel. We also need the same for the NEW configuration. This can be calculated as an RTP per credit spent, and added to the RTP already known for the base game. IF it comes to 95% or so, all is well, and the changes are "fair" (but it would have been nice to have been told beforehand).

As for RTG not being there, no surprise really

Was there a rep from Ministering Angel, or even Pamper (who have just spammed me today - BIG mistake nappy boy).

 

[Rusty]

Well this is the whole problem is it not, openness?
If they wanted to be open they could state the theoretical payout of each slot in the paytable and information on how that result is arrived at also give honest appraisals on how bonus rounds operate.
But they don't so the obvious question has to be why not?

 

[RobWin]

I'll be following up with the MGS folks this week. As for RTG, I didn't see hide or hair of anyone. I spent a little time with one of the operators (Club World), but no one was them from RTG that I'm aware of.

Which is a real shame. They used to have a rather high profile at these events which made it easy to discuss/solve player issues and to get some insight on their company plans.

Well if RTG is choosing not to participate at these shows and meetings then it sounds like you and or us are going to have to go to the casinos (Clubworld, Inetbet) etc., to get the answers that we deserve as being their loyal customers...they (Clubworld, Inetbet) etc., have chosen to run this software platform...so they can IMO also choose to answer our questions, honestly and without recourse or Spin, I think we as their supporters, customer base and money source deserve an honest answer from them...

It's ok if they have tightened up the RTP on most of their games this year, they have every right to do this as it is their business but in the same regard and respect we as their customers Deserve an honest answer from them on this issue and the 60% of the others here that voted in that RTG Poll who also believe that the payouts have drastically changed this year, I believe would also agree with me on this !!

 

[Rusty]

Unfortunately Rob that is like asking a compulsive liar to be honest about their condition.
While there is no burden of proof we are screwed in that respect.

 

[babs7262]

Hey Bryan

Glad you had an interesting time. Yeah, Montel mentioned it on his show a few times that he was in the service. I think he was one of the first to get a street Hummer too lol. Did you know he has MS? Hes on this huge campaign to get americans prescriptions for free here in the US. Havnt seen his show in years though

 

[2young2care]

Montel's daughter graduated high school with my fiance's daughter. Very nice girl and I've always heard how wonderful he is too. He sat across the aisle from us at her graduation but we never had the chance to chat with him. It was strange seeing him in this podunk town!

 

[The Dude]

He he

 

[RobWin]

He he

Nice shirt Bryan...