Barcelona - Questions and comments for industry folk

[Rusty]

I didn't realise I could access the newsletter from this forum.
I just read it for the first time.
I have changed my mind about Newsletters, well this one anyway.
This site just gets better and bettr the more you explore.

Can I retract my Rassumfassam?
If so, I do

[vinylweatherman]

Actually, I'll be posting most of this in my write-up in the newsletter. (gives you incentive to sign up )

Spoke with the people from Microgaming. They said that there have not been any changes in the software since the UIGEA - this was the first they heard of anyone complaining, they'll be investigating this. They were also checking into the Mega - Moolah thing as well.
Had a rather interesting time. I even met Montel Williams (who's a big poker player). We had a rather private conversation for a couple of hours in his Hotel's upstairs cafe - turns out he was in the military around the same time I was - so we traded war stories and such. Really a cool guy

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.... and if they say nothing changed, their reputation will be down the crapper

Mega Moolah was just too obvious to explain away by "variance", don't even THINK of trying it MG.

If it was a cock-up, say so, apologise, and mend it (like last time - with the wheel movie). An EXPLANATION of what happened would help.

[RobWin]

.... and if they say nothing changed, their reputation will be down the crapper

Mega Moolah was just too obvious to explain away by "variance", don't even THINK of trying it MG.

If it was a cock-up, say so, apologise, and mend it (like last time - with the wheel movie). An EXPLANATION of what happened would help.

Yea, and the same goes for RTG software and its operators but their reputation is already half way down the crapper anyway..., I hope Bryan had a chance to talk to them too since I posed the question here early for him to ask as also 60% of the folks here at Casinomeister that voted in the "RTG Poll" also think that RTG and its operators are playing different and are paying out tighter this year than they have in the past and we deserve an honest answer from them on this issue...I mean really can 60% of the folks that voted in that RTG Poll be wrong and it's just all in our head...nothing has changed...I don't think so...

[retlaw]

Spoke with the people from Microgaming. They said that there have not been any changes in the software since the UIGEA - this was the first they heard of anyone complaining, they'll be investigating this. They were also checking into the Mega - Moolah thing as well.

Tell them they lie

This message I received 19th September from a trustworthy casino rep :

I have just come off yet another call with MG about Mega Moolah and this is what I have been able to find out thus far.

The ‘new jackpots’ are real, that’s for sure. The overall gameplay and, critically, the theoretical payout percentage across the whole game have not changed in any way, shape or form. The frequency of ‘hit’ particularly at the ‘mini’ and ‘minor’ level has reduced and hence the value of the jackpot has increased well above the levels that we are all used to!


We are still talking with MG so as to understand if this is a permanent change and most importantly why nobody was informed about it; as soon as I have the definitive answer I’ll let you know.

[Casinomeister]

I'll be following up with the MGS folks this week. As for RTG, I didn't see hide or hair of anyone. I spent a little time with one of the operators (Club World), but no one was them from RTG that I'm aware of.

Which is a real shame. They used to have a rather high profile at these events which made it easy to discuss/solve player issues and to get some insight on their company plans.

[vinylweatherman]

Tell them they lie

This message I received 19th September from a trustworthy casino rep :

I have just come off yet another call with MG about Mega Moolah and this is what I have been able to find out thus far.

The ‘new jackpots’ are real, that’s for sure. The overall gameplay and, critically, the theoretical payout percentage across the whole game have not changed in any way, shape or form. The frequency of ‘hit’ particularly at the ‘mini’ and ‘minor’ level has reduced and hence the value of the jackpot has increased well above the levels that we are all used to!


We are still talking with MG so as to understand if this is a permanent change and most importantly why nobody was informed about it; as soon as I have the definitive answer I’ll let you know.

Well, it's now the 30th, and MG are STILL not going to make a formal announcement on this. It looks like this casino had to literally DRAG even this limited response from MG and STILL has to get more out of them.

This is utter bullshite, MG must have known EVERYTHING about this, and for some time before the "patch" was implemented.
Did they really believe there was no need to tell anybody since we wouldn't notice

The conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day with this revelation. What ELSE are they failing to announce, and are waiting for someone to have the wit (and evidence) to DRAG a statement out of them. We cannot even know for sure whether the game RTP has changed either way as a result of this, we are supposed to take them at their word

If MG want to be believed, they need to be more open. Give out more detailed figures, and let the mathematicians loose on them (or would that be LOSE on them eh KK).

For example, to calculate the proper RTP for Mega Moolah, we need to know the OLD chances of triggering the wheel per credit bet, and the chances within that of winning each of the pots per spin of the weel. We also need the same for the NEW configuration. This can be calculated as an RTP per credit spent, and added to the RTP already known for the base game. IF it comes to 95% or so, all is well, and the changes are "fair" (but it would have been nice to have been told beforehand).

As for RTG not being there, no surprise really

Was there a rep from Ministering Angel, or even Pamper (who have just spammed me today - BIG mistake nappy boy).

[Rusty]

Well this is the whole problem is it not, openness?
If they wanted to be open they could state the theoretical payout of each slot in the paytable and information on how that result is arrived at also give honest appraisals on how bonus rounds operate.
But they don't so the obvious question has to be why not?

[RobWin]

I'll be following up with the MGS folks this week. As for RTG, I didn't see hide or hair of anyone. I spent a little time with one of the operators (Club World), but no one was them from RTG that I'm aware of.

Which is a real shame. They used to have a rather high profile at these events which made it easy to discuss/solve player issues and to get some insight on their company plans.

Well if RTG is choosing not to participate at these shows and meetings then it sounds like you and or us are going to have to go to the casinos (Clubworld, Inetbet) etc., to get the answers that we deserve as being their loyal customers...they (Clubworld, Inetbet) etc., have chosen to run this software platform...so they can IMO also choose to answer our questions, honestly and without recourse or Spin, I think we as their supporters, customer base and money source deserve an honest answer from them...

It's ok if they have tightened up the RTP on most of their games this year, they have every right to do this as it is their business but in the same regard and respect we as their customers Deserve an honest answer from them on this issue and the 60% of the others here that voted in that RTG Poll who also believe that the payouts have drastically changed this year, I believe would also agree with me on this !!

[Rusty]

Unfortunately Rob that is like asking a compulsive liar to be honest about their condition.
While there is no burden of proof we are screwed in that respect.

[babs7262]

Hey Bryan

Glad you had an interesting time. Yeah, Montel mentioned it on his show a few times that he was in the service. I think he was one of the first to get a street Hummer too lol. Did you know he has MS? Hes on this huge campaign to get americans prescriptions for free here in the US. Havnt seen his show in years though