So long, MG. Wish you know you have lost one loyal player 's trust.

[oyw7862]

Firstly, I state that I am not here to start a debate on software fairness. This thread is merely my last few words on MG slots, since I have decided to stop playing MG software forever after nearly 2 years loyal to this software.

The following experience is based on my real play records.

The story should start from later July - early August, when MG massively updated the software. Payout patterns on slots changed. At that time I was playing at one of F/L casinos. The first thing I noticed was that the free spin features on thunderstuck were becoming extramely difficult to get. 400 - 700 spins no featues becomes very common to me even if the feature should average be triggered 132 spins. Second, the payout of features was very very poor. Once, I played the whole night and at least got 30 free spins none of them above 20x bets. August needless to say was a blood bath, I lost 3 times as much as I usually lost even if I bet the same size.

At that time I have not noticed that MG might did sth about the slots, I then turned to another F/L casino and after a long losing steak I finally havd a nice feature(5 rams @ 1.35), but I did not realize that was extramely lucky for me.

Followed by another long losing steak, things turned fishy, the near hit features appeared in a scaring frequency. I recall the last time play, I got almost 40 - 50 times near hit features(5OK). That are all in about 7K spins.
More, 6 - 7 free spins paid nothing(except the trigger itself).

There are still alots of strange behaviors of MG slots in recent months. I will not list them as I very often just played thunderstuck.
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The following is just my guess,which may not be correct:
(1) As too many new slots come out, RNG malfunction and trigger the system self-protect. That may explain the "Casino Error #2"
(2) Due to global ecomony went down, alot of MG casinos are going under, to prevent this, MG did some temp adjustments.
(3) MG software initially designed with a rate of holding, as less players and deposits, Obvirously, the win features become less.
(4) ALLEN attack
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If the reason for recent changes was #1 I think it is forgive-able. Every piece of software will have some bugs.
However, if it was due to #2/3, it is not fair to hide from players. And MG had done a foolish thing as regular players would notice changes.
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After all, I have lost confidence on MG games and for me thunderstuck no joy anymore.

It is interesting, I have noticed the pattern changes on thunderstuck since the start of SEP, but I still played for another month and lost quite a bit money. I know that because I am an addict. I always tell myself, things bond to change unfortunately, it will not change in short time.

I will step out of any games provided by MG from now on. For me, RTG is even better, because we all know the payout can be changed.

At last I feel regret, that in the 2 years play I totally got 5 rams 12 times but did not have a chance to get the jackpot.

Sorry for my English.

[slotplayer]

This has been going on for months. I basically play the same 3 games and I could tell right off the bat that something changed drastically. I emailed the casino a couple of months back and complained that the games are different.

On a similar note, there was an old Gtech land casino slot game called Reel Fruit for those that might know the game and I remember the casino shortened the time it took to tally the win to increase the number of spins per minute. You could tell by the ding sound. It went from several dings to just 1 or 2 dings for the same win combination. They don't think players notice but they do.

[Rusty]

I think it is more noticeable to those who play a favourite game regularly.
Be it that game is Thunderstruck, Munchkins or in my case Cashapillar.
The free spins have become as rare as rocking horse s*** and almost always pay garbage.
I think the payouts are lower across the board all platforms at the moment as it is not just me who gets/got nada from so many deposits.

By the way Allen is a good friend of mine, leave him out of this

[Rhyzz]

I'll agree here, I haven't had a good session as any MG Casino for a while, my play at 32Red had significantly slowed and I tend to play with Playtech casino's at the moment.

The more slots they seem to bring out (MG), the less the current ones seem to pay. I started my 32Red account playing on Hitman, the bonus was quite regular, albeit relatively small payouts. Now, I can't recall the last time I hit a bonus on Hitman after thouuuuusands of spins.

C'est la vie, I'll just play where I feel as though I have a chance of winning.

[oyw7862]

Sorry Rusty - should be "alien" instead of allen

[Rusty]

Sorry Rusty - should be "alien" instead of allen

I know that Baby, just kidding with ya.

I am in the process of playing off any remaining balances in my accounts and wow it just get worse and worse.
Cashapillar I have triggered Two features in nearly 1500 spins in Two Casinos.
At one time it was over 140 consecutive spins without the scatter appearing anywhere on the first reel!
Payouts again around 60%.

I think if there is anyone left out there that still believes the slots are completely random and not weighted to adjust payouts needs to think again.

MG seem to think RTG have a neat trick screwing the players, well make the most of what is left in my accounts Boys and girls because it will be crumbs for you in the future, if you are lucky.

[oyw7862]

I just hope more players in this forum can truely open their eyes.
MG casinos do pay the wins however if you can not win, does that matter?

I hope it is just a software bug not MG intends to rip off players.

Otherwise, MG should be listed in as Rogue software provider just like start-your-own-casino.

[Rusty]

Sorry Rusty - should be "alien" instead of allen

I just hope more players in this forum can truely open their eyes.
MG casinos do pay the wins however if you can not win, does that matter?

I hope it is just a software bug not MG intends to rip off players.

Otherwise, MG should be listed in as Rogue software provider just like start-your-own-casino.

MG are a very professional outfit and the term rogue does not quite fit IMO because the software is not rigged as such it is just flexible if you see what I mean.
Rogue MG and every software and every Casino can be termed rogue and then we would have no way of distinguishing between greedy business practices and criminal endeavours.
Of course some would argue the Two are One and the same.

[funky_seagull]

Aye I agree.

I stupidly decided to play at M.G. again today, and lost big.This past month this has happened too often and that's it for me, I've had enough. If they want to become the casino software equivalent of scrooge that's up to them.

I will invest my money somewhere else where I at least have a chance - the whole microgaming thing at the moment seems designed to suck our money like a dyson.

I really hate them. I feel like I've been made a fool of.

I have some deposits in other MG casinos, and have just withdrawn them all and won't be coming back.

I am having more fun at playtech, who at the moment don't seem to have followed the: skank players for as much as you can to survive the credit crunch approach. At least with playtech you can win something. I hope that doesn't change as well.

Microgaming have gone downlhill. In my experience their games aren't random or fair and I've had enough of them. Being ripped off isn't nice.

My conclusion: Avoid microgaming like the plague, unless you enjoy the experience of theft.

It's a shame cause they used to be my favourite, but this whole experience has left me feeling pished off and bitter towards them...

yes casino games are games of chance... but people don't play to lose - people play to win, and winning something is part of the fun - giving something back to prolong the experience of playing so that it lasts for a while isn't too much to ask is it... I mean most people lose it in the end anyway... but most people want to spend a bit of time playing as that is the enjoyment - losing your deposit in 15 minutes and winning nothing is not fun...

[KasinoKing]

I think if there is anyone left out there that still believes the slots are completely random and not weighted to adjust payouts needs to think again.

I'm thinking matey, I'm thinking.
I can't honestly say I've seen anything different with MG recently. I've had bad sessions and I've had good sessions - same as always.

Just ran a quick stat check on Osbournes - playing every day for Lads scratchcards:-

So far this month:
Total spins; 2,458
Knockers feature; 24 times = 1 in 102 spins
Grab a Gift feat; . 17 times = 1 in 144 spins
Free-spins feat; . 16 times = 1 in 153 spins
Total of features; 57 times = 1 in 43 spins

I haven't analysed this slot yet (next on my list!), but that seems about right to me.

Total wagered; £1,408
Total lost; ........ £120
Return: ........... 91.5%

Not 96% I know, but then I haven't hit any big wins & only got to Ozzy 3 times in the free-spins...

I'm a bit of a Cashapillarholic as well, but again, I've not seen anything outside the expected parameters. Played last night & got free-spins twice inside 250 goes (The odds are 1 in 160). They didn't pay much (bet x48 & bet x0.72 (See Screenshots that Suck!)) but I hit a lucky big win in normal spins which helped me to a nice profit!