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    they will not prove u anything......never
    We should ,tho, prove em, that we can be strong enough and not play at theyr casinos anymore..... untill......untill I dont frikking know....I was told by Max not to say f....k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    RTG Casinos are cheats full stop.
    That goes for all of them.
    They alter their payouts to stupidly low levels and don't give a damn how blatant their cheating is.
    Everyone who is a genuine player and played any length of time at RTG's knows this for a fact.
    I prefer RTG slots to MG personally and though I am certain MG slots are no more random than RTG at least they generally maintain payout levels.
    Do not waste your money with RTG because sooner or later you will be making deposit after deposit and getting below 60% payout consistently.

    I openly challenge any RTG to prove what I say is untrue.
    Where is your proof Rusty? Have you done or have you paid for an audit......Just asking........

    If you really feel that strongly about the payouts being rigged.......it's pretty simple as Kakaka said.......don't give them anymore money.

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    I was just thinking

    when you think about it, some ppl think ever since the US pulled out they had to make changes as to not lose money BUT...I see it differently. RTG for the most part is still available to the USA and tons of MG and NO playtech or wagerworks are gone, so where are those US players going?

    I mean, it could be that RTG is actually making a killing since the pull out because these playtech/wagerworks ppl had to change software right?

    I dont know what my point is lol. Im just writing out loud. It cant be that reason but for some reason RTG IS tighter, not saying they are cheating, but much tighter and I just dont understand why if they arnt really losing much business

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    Quote Originally Posted by bb28 View Post
    Where is your proof Rusty? Have you done or have you paid for an audit......Just asking........

    If you really feel that strongly about the payouts being rigged.......it's pretty simple as Kakaka said.......don't give them anymore money.
    My proof is in the playlogs of every RTG Casino I have played.
    Why pay for an audit when I can do my own?
    I won't give them any more money but why should I remain silent about them changing the payouts?
    If you make a deposit at a Casino using software you know well and get a return of less than 70% and little play you put it down to a bad session.
    You might put down the missing scatter symbols and weird spins to a freak glitch.
    If you make 10 deposits at a Casino and get between 50% and 80% on all of them and if you get features less than half as often than you did before and the features all pay less than before and you never get a re-trigger like you did before then unless you are very very backward you begin to believe the payouts have been altered.
    When you have similar results at different Casinos using the same software over Tens of thousands if not Hundreds of Thousands of spins then you are pretty sure the payouts are being altered.
    And when this always happens after a mystery update you KNOW the payouts are being altered.

    I think that is worthy of a mention or indeed many mentions on a Casino watchdog forum even if you do not.

    I know you say you are just asking but it is an odd question since I openly state the Casinos are welcome to disprove what I am saying by showing playlogs that do not show what I am saying.
    That is payout and gameplay that does not alter abruptly and continue over Thousands of spins and many deposits.
    If they do that impossible thing that is when you should question my rationale for bashing RTG Casinos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    Is it just me ?
    All my deposits the last couple of Days at RTG's have disappeared super quick and if I have been lucky enough to hit a feature there have been no retriggers to be seen and I am lucky to hit X10 bet.

    I am talking over Thousands of spins here at different Casinos with the same crap results.

    After being anhialated at Rushmore for a few deposits I switched to Vegas online and what a joke that was.

    The reels go in slow motion and that was the only reason my second deposit lasted as long as 20 minutes.

    What is the deal with those spins?

    Two features on Derby dollar amounting to X5 bet together lol and One on vikings voyage X8 I finished on Wizzard game and didn't even see Two scatters let alone trigger a feature.

    So is it just me or have things turned for other RTG players of late?

    I am going to leave alone for a while now unless some good folk here I trust are still hitting.

    That avatar kills me Rusty! It's so fitting for you! Whenever I read your posts I can see that clown shrugging his shoulders with a look of "what the hell?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    My proof is in the playlogs of every RTG Casino I have played.
    Why pay for an audit when I can do my own?
    I won't give them any more money but why should I remain silent about them changing the payouts?
    If you make a deposit at a Casino using software you know well and get a return of less than 70% and little play you put it down to a bad session.
    You might put down the missing scatter symbols and weird spins to a freak glitch.
    If you make 10 deposits at a Casino and get between 50% and 80% on all of them and if you get features less than half as often than you did before and the features all pay less than before and you never get a re-trigger like you did before then unless you are very very backward you begin to believe the payouts have been altered.
    When you have similar results at different Casinos using the same software over Tens of thousands if not Hundreds of Thousands of spins then you are pretty sure the payouts are being altered.
    And when this always happens after a mystery update you KNOW the payouts are being altered.

    I think that is worthy of a mention or indeed many mentions on a Casino watchdog forum even if you do not.

    I know you say you are just asking but it is an odd question since I openly state the Casinos are welcome to disprove what I am saying by showing playlogs that do not show what I am saying.
    That is payout and gameplay that does not alter abruptly and continue over Thousands of spins and many deposits.
    If they do that impossible thing that is when you should question my rationale for bashing RTG Casinos.
    I've got to agree with you here Rusty, this year has been totally different as far as play time, number of deposits vs number of cashouts, number of times hitting the features or free spins and the dollar amount of wins when you do hit something. I've been playing these RTG casinos for about five or six years now and it has never, ever been as bad a beat as it has been this year !

    If they (RTG) or the individual casinos have not changed something this year then they would have to prove that to me, you cannot consistently have this many folks saying basically the same thing for such a long period of months if something is not wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakata View Post
    they will not prove u anything......never
    We should ,tho, prove em, that we can be strong enough and not play at theyr casinos anymore..... untill......untill I dont frikking know....I was told by Max not to say f....k
    love you ALL
    Whan you really have to let loose Kakata, try saying phuck! instead! Somehow it's more internet friendly.......yet it gets the job done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim5ny View Post
    Whan you really have to let loose Kakata, try saying phuck! instead! Somehow it's more internet friendly.......yet it gets the job done!
    I kinda like frikkin myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    My proof is in the playlogs of every RTG Casino I have played.
    Why pay for an audit when I can do my own?
    I won't give them any more money but why should I remain silent about them changing the payouts?
    If you make a deposit at a Casino using software you know well and get a return of less than 70% and little play you put it down to a bad session.
    You might put down the missing scatter symbols and weird spins to a freak glitch.
    If you make 10 deposits at a Casino and get between 50% and 80% on all of them and if you get features less than half as often than you did before and the features all pay less than before and you never get a re-trigger like you did before then unless you are very very backward you begin to believe the payouts have been altered.
    When you have similar results at different Casinos using the same software over Tens of thousands if not Hundreds of Thousands of spins then you are pretty sure the payouts are being altered.
    And when this always happens after a mystery update you KNOW the payouts are being altered.

    I think that is worthy of a mention or indeed many mentions on a Casino watchdog forum even if you do not.

    I know you say you are just asking but it is an odd question since I openly state the Casinos are welcome to disprove what I am saying by showing playlogs that do not show what I am saying.
    That is payout and gameplay that does not alter abruptly and continue over Thousands of spins and many deposits.
    If they do that impossible thing that is when you should question my rationale for bashing RTG Casinos.

    I realize that you have a lot of data and that you've been collecting it for a while. It's been said that a change on the paytables takes 6 months to come into effect, although we don't know that is a fact either. . I do wish that they would pay for a independent audit and don't quite understand why they don't. If they did it would sure put a lot of the rumors to rest........or at least I think it would.
    Everyone has a right to bitch and moan sometimes.......and hey I've been guilty of it myself from time to time but on the other hand, if I really have a gut feeling that something isn't right.........I take my money to other places. Unless there is an audit done or someone stumbles upon the proverbial smoking gun......there isn't any way to disprove or prove the theory that something is different or rigged.

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    it wouldn't matter if they did an "independent audit' because they'll tell you whatever they want regarding the results. If you KNOW & FEEL something isn't right with these RTG casinos and have alot of prior experience playing the games, then you can only come to one conclusion.

    They need to keep paying their affiliates for the referrals, but they don't have to pay you. Prism, BetRoyal, etc have constant complaints from their affiliates not paid on time or at all (I've seen the posts from another site).

    These places just hope you'll keep trying them until something changes, but it's been months and it's as bad as ever. Just use discipline and use your money to buy something for yourself and not for them. They are cheating and getting away with it. No regulations, laws just people giving them their money.

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