32red

**Nicole50** · 2nd August 2008, 06:58 PM

Iam sick of this 32 red casino. yesterday 75 euros went in 3 or 4 minutes without getting nothing and the casino said that I have 24% payout.

Today I deposited 25 euros to see how it is going on and played the same game. the casino chat said 42 % payout even I did not went up to my deposit. 25 deposit went exactly in 3 minutes without getting nothing until 0 credit.the chat said that I had 42% payout. From where they get this numbers ?

I find out in two days that they change all games and when complaining in nice way they bring 42, 89, 99 % payout . Even I am loosing on and on.
What Iam sure this casino will be in the British Newspaper soon and I will do it with my personnal contacts.

**refre** · 2nd August 2008, 07:30 PM

To get the payout %ages, they divide your all your payouts by your wagering.

Let's say you deposit �25 and wager exactly that. When you're done you have �15 in your account. Your payback for that session would then be
15/25 = 60%.

If you play your balance down to zero you will have to find how much you wagered by adding all your wins to your deposit. Then do the same calculation as described above (wins / wins+deposit)

May I ask, what stakes do you play when depositing �25? Cos in most free spins slot you have a 1 in 100-150 chance of hitting the feature. So doing less spins than that, you may be setting yourself up for disappointment (in most sessions).

Freddy

**NASHVEGAS** · 2nd August 2008, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by refre

To get the payout %ages, they divide your all your payouts by your wagering.

Let's say you deposit �25 and wager exactly that. When you're done you have �15 in your account. Your payback for that session would then be
15/25 = 60%.

If you play your balance down to zero you will have to find how much you wagered by adding all your wins to your deposit. Then do the same calculation as described above (wins / wins+deposit)

May I ask, what stakes do you play when depositing �25? Cos in most free spins slot you have a 1 in 100-150 chance of hitting the feature. So doing less spins than that, you may be setting yourself up for disappointment (in most sessions).

Freddy

Maybe playing with a ~ 100% risk of ruin.

**Nicole50** · 2nd August 2008, 07:52 PM

Thanks Freddy

my game was Tally Ho

yesterday it was 75 credit and I get nothing in all spins. then they said that I had 24% payout.

25 deposit. I started with 27 cent per spin but i get nothing until 0 credit. During the game I got one feature (free spin) and the free spin gives 1.00 euro in ten spins not more.

when finished the chat said 42 %. they are saying this because they were told to replay like this to players . They can not say to players that they did something to the game. Really they make me crazy with this % payout.

In others casinos MG, with 25 deposit you get free spin and during that you maybe double of your deposit as an example Intertops casino. try what iam saying and you wil see.

I can tell you that Iam not saying thinks like that, the 32red is becoming more difficult and more difficult.

In any other MG casino, it is impossible that you get nothing even with 25 deposit. You can win and you can loose it after if you continue but at 32red the things are going wrong.

The % payout is only way to convince player. For me they can not convince me with this replay. There is way how to get them back in the right direction and hopefully it will be done very soon because we are honest players and they dont care about honest players. Or maybe it can be since one player won in 32red in Tally Ho game as we saw the screeshoot in the forum, then after the casino make it hard to win. that's the reality. It has nothing to do with payout.

**Nicole50** · 2nd August 2008, 09:53 PM

Hi Guys and womens

Thank you all for having me since year in this forum and thanks for the support you gave to me . You are really nice peoples.

As I find out that this site became 32red casinomeister not casinomeister who suppose to defend players whatsoever is the name of the casino. I have trusted this site long times but it's appear that when concerning 32red casino ,there is no way to get help from the meister himself. I can understand that somebody is getting part of the cake with 32red casino. I will be in other forum where they dont care about the name of the casino.

When concerning others casinos, we see the fast reactions from the meister to resolve the problems and to ask questions to casinos but when concerning 32red, nobody say any things.

That's why I will play at rogue casino and I will deposit my money there . At least I know it is rogue . Mister kakata from this froum was right some times ago.

32red seem to be very powerfull here at this site and this is not fair.This site is promoting 32red even they are cheating players. So my final word in this site is to the forum moderators :

Are you aware what 32red is doing ? why you never ask them questions? You are all promoting this casino to encourage them to take money from players with cheating in the games.

To Mark from 32red who is representative here in the forum : Congratulations to you in taking contol of casinomeister site. You have succeded.

To Others members : thanks a lot for exchanging talks and vues with me and I hope you will be all lucky but I am sure not in 32red casino.

This is my email if someone want to write to me in the futur as I will not be back in this 32red casino second site

moniteurmoniteur@yahoo.com

Greating to all players and god luck to the meister

and Bye bye all

**Fleur-De-Lis** · 2nd August 2008, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Nicole50

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Are you aware what 32red is doing ?

Hi Nicole,
what exactly 32 red is not doing right - can you tell us what happened?

I personally had better than positive experience in there...

**spearmaster** · 2nd August 2008, 10:19 PM

Nicole -

I think it is a bit presumptuous of you to expect an instant reply from the Casinomeister considering you only made a post about this in the last couple of hours.

Furthermore, the Casinomeister is away on personal business and has not been online since yesterday, and is not expected to be around for the next couple of weeks.

If you have a complaint - please address it to Max, or do a PAB, or something, rather than making groundless accusations. I understand you're upset - but perhaps you need to calm down a bit before throwing around the strong words you're using now.

**Simmo!** · 2nd August 2008, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Fleur-De-Lis

Hi Nicole,
what exactly 32 red is not doing right - can you tell us what happened?

Merged the two threads for clarity.

Originally Posted by Nicole50

not casinomeister who suppose to defend players whatsoever is the name of the casino

No that's not what Casinomeister does. He acts as an arbitrator trying to work out which side is right when a problem occurs. Whoever he rules for thinks he's great, whoever he rules against thinks he's biased/taking bribes/a casino apologist/an idiot (delete as applicable). 50% of the people he deals with are going to disagree with him, thats the nature of the job

**spearmaster** · 2nd August 2008, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Simmo!

No that's not what Casinomeister does. He acts as an arbitrator trying to work out which side is right when a problem occurs. Whoever he rules for thinks he's great, whoever he rules against thinks he's biased/taking bribes/a casino apologist/an idiot (delete as applicable). That's the nature of the job

The trouble is, he hasn't ruled anything in this case because he hasn't seen anything!

**Fleur-De-Lis** · 2nd August 2008, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Nicole50

In others casinos MG, with 25 deposit you get free spin and during that you maybe double of your deposit as an example Intertops casino. try what iam saying and you wil see.

In any other MG casino, it is impossible that you get nothing even with 25 deposit. You can win and you can loose it after if you continue but at 32red the things are going wrong.

Nicole - I really feel for you. I am not just saying this - I was there, and more often than I care for. I am afraid this is gambling though... I used to deposit 1000$ and lose it in less than an hour, doing average .75$-2.50$ per spin... in MG, RTG, 3D and elsewhere. It just happens