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Old 21st June 2008, 03:59 PM
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Craps.com Casino - recommended ?

I received a birthday offer from craps.com casino :

Happy Birthday xxxxxx !


300% up to 300€ first deposit bonus !

Deposit 100€ play with 400€!!


Happy Birthday again !


This promotion is valid 24 hours after receiving this email ( what do you think of this ??? )
For a fair game you have to wager the bonus 25x times
get a 100 % immediatley and ask CS for the remaining 200 % .



Is craps.com a place were you would deposit ? This offer sounds pretty nice but before i deposit i d like to get some comments on that casino .

Tyvm !

Here their T&C

1. Upon making your first single deposit into your account, you will instantly receive
100% up to $177 FREE bonus CASH!

2. Please note that the only deposit that is eligible for this bonus is your first deposit at the Casino.

3. The total maximum bonus amount that will be given for your first deposit bonus is $177. <----- wich in my case isnt true since it would be 300 $ / €

4. This bonus may not be combined with any other bonus unless otherwise stated.

5. In the interest of fair gaming, in order to cash out any amount of money, you must wager your deposit bonus plus deposit at least eight times (x8). If you withdraw before having reached the minimum wagering requirements, you bonus and winnings will be void.

6. If you choose to wager your deposit bonus on craps you must wager your bonus plus deposit at least thirty-two times (x32). If you choose to wager your deposit bonus on Blackjack you must wager your bonus plus deposit at least twenty-four times (x24). <---------strange too since in the email it says 25 times the BONUS amount .
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Old 21st June 2008, 04:31 PM
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only my opinion, but i would never make any deposit on a casino, which named himself "crap"
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only my opinion, but i would never make any deposit on a casino, which named himself "crap"
I say the same too.
It sounds pretty shitty to me.

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Well, a 2 minute glance revealed a few things:
1. A pop up inviting you to download as soon as you visit their website. Now I know a few reputable places do that too, but I hate it and gives me totally the wrong impression. (To me it's like they're saying "don't bother to read or T&C's etc, just deposit & start playing!")

2. It's Playtech. The majority of Playtechs are dodgy at best, rogues at worst.

3. The banking page only tells you how you can deposit, not withdraw.

4. If you just read the 6 terms relating to this bonus, it does not tell you that you can't play certain games;
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Bets placed on all versions of Baccarat, all versions of Roulette, all versions of Sic Bo, all versions of Darts, Heads or Tails, all Video Poker games, Blackjack Switch, Blackjack Surrender, and Pontoon will not be counted toward wagering requirements. We reserve the right to withhold any amount in excess of the player’s original deposit from a player's withdrawal if the play bonus is wagered on the above mentioned games.
5. It also doesn't tell you that this bonus is PHANTOM - the value of the bonus will be deducted from your first cash-in.

Read all the terms, and if you're happy, proceed with caution!
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thats some helpful thoughts KasinoKing .
Thanks to the others aswell of course .

So this is a sticky bonus . Still i d do it if i know i can play BJ and can cashout w. no problems if it hit .

Anyone ever cashed out from craps.com here ?


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So this is a sticky bonus . Still i d do it if i know i can play BJ and can cashout w. no problems if it hit .

Anyone ever cashed out from craps.com here ?

Ty
Call me picky , but it's a Phantom bonus, NOT a sticky bonus.
(There is a distinct difference).

If you only play Blackjack you are certainly leaving yourself open to the "We don't think you played the bonus in the spirit it was given" BS and the possibility of losing your winnings.
Think about this for a minute; as the bonus is phantom and Blackjack is a very low variance game, the only way to make any use of the bonus is to do the 'big double up' - yet another classic excuse used by casinos not to pay.

I would like to point out that I know nothing about this casino and they could be totally OK. All I could find here at CM was the following problem from 6-months ago, which doesn't seem to have any conclusion:-

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...en-cashed.html

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Call me picky , but it's a Phantom bonus, NOT a sticky bonus.
(There is a distinct difference).
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Would you mind clarifying that for me and whoever else might appreciate it, KK?

Thanks!
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The problem lies with the initial Email, not the terms.

It says the bonus is valid for 24 hours after receiving the Email, yet the player has no business relationship with the casino, so how on earth can the casino (legitimately) have this persons details. This makes it likely that the Email is spam, and is promising a bonus that does not exist, something players find out after they deposit and "contact CS for the extra 200%". CS will say that this is not their offer, and will only give the standard bonus on the website, 100% to 177. Further, the victim has already deposited, possibly because of the fake promise in the Email, but they will be bound to the ACTUAL rules, not the promising ones in the Email, as well as finding out it's a phantom bonus, something the Email does not mention.

The casino itself would have no way of determining whether the deposit was within the 24 hours (they cannot know when you RECEIVED the Email), and this would be an easy excuse for failing to offer the bonus if the casino were backed into a corner with evidence, such as a copy of the Email and public exposure of this trick.
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Ugh. More spam!
What joy.
what address did this offer come from?
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