Treasure Ireland - HELP!!

[vinylweatherman]

HELP!!!!

Could someone mind this machine for me while I get some more change

I've been on it for a while, it's going to go soon, and I don't want KK to jump onto it while I am away

[Matthew23]

At this stage your machine will be stolen by a woman at least 80 years old...... and you just know she'll hit the 500X plus repeat....

I wish they would make better AWP slots and also AWP poker....there's a lot of potential with AWP slots, but they seem to put in the absolute minimum effort in designing these slots

[Nifty29]

Hey Vinyl - what do you think your return is on this one? I find it very tough to get ahead - never seen more than 50x on any of the features.

[Zoozie]

Hey Vinyl - what do you think your return is on this one? I find it very tough to get ahead - never seen more than 50x on any of the features.

what a surprise....

It is a rigged "Fruit Slot" with a memory. You can not win *500 before you have lost a much higher amount. Ie. when you start playing it and you hit many features, they will all really suck. But as you start digging further down in your pocket the features can be more 'generous'. Then you can start celebrating that you 'won' 500£ back from the 1500£ you have lost. Ooh.. What joy....

They actually also call it AWP (Amusement With Prices) not trying to hide this fact, though of course also not too informative about it. And I am sure most players do not realize what they are dealing with. It is not a 'slot' in the normal-random-independant-spins-sense But some suckers has to feed the casinos so they can run some decent promotions, so I do not complain.

[Matthew23]

It doesn't really make a difference if it's random or AWP, the only thing that matters is the payout percentage. Random isn't always fun...

The memory would not be on a per account basis, that would be pointless and would mean it was impossible to win until you lose. It is possible to be ahead on these slots, The reason you probably dont see many winners is because not many people play them, also the 500X can be repeated. So you either win a lot, or nothing.

To call someone a sucker because they play a 95% payout AWP, instead of a 95% random slot - is just stupid.

[Zoozie]

Random isn't always fun...
To call someone a sucker because they play a 95% payout AWP, instead of a 95% random slot - is just stupid.

You are right of course, it does not matter long term. But I guess we just see it different. But I do not like the fact that the AWP rules will prevent you from
getting way ahead. Slots are fun, but I believe most people play to win - ie. try to get ahead or they might as well play in fun mode.
But it also goes the other way around, which means that with AWP you will not experience 60% over a longer timespan. It will give you some
big wins to make up for some of you loss.

[vinylweatherman]

I did get back later, with some change, and certainly no 80 year old granny on it. I expect it is too complicated. However, turning my back to get a nice amount from some "wild ladies" to boost my bankroll, I found some spotty youth had got the 500x on the cash ladder, so I just gave up, completely demoralised

I had a look in 32Red, and they had one of these too, hidden away in a corner where Pat couldn't see it from the bar, so I set to work. Completely dead Someone beat me to it, it wasn't backing, and I lost on the first couple of goes on the board.
Went to Ladbrokes, dead again

Who is doing these Is there an emptier doing the rounds? C'mon, tell me - it'll be chipped by Monday anyway, and I've got some money in Jackpot Factory, and I don't think many there would know how to play it anyway

[Slotster!]

Pat, earlier:



Of course, I would assume that should be a Villa shirt!

Seriously though - something I've always wondered about these online versions... Are the take/payout ratio's based on YOUR individual play, or across the casino? Or even across Microgaming? Or geographically!?? What? Which? Something else even?

My hunch is that it's casino specific... I.e If there are ten people playing "Treasure Island" at 32RED, then they're all contributing/taking from the preset payout - But I'd love to know!

[Matthew23]

I used to think that maybe a RNG was still used, though not in the true sense. Depending on the random number received the machine would then play a sequence of non-random events. But then again this can't be the case because there is no telling what prize the player will choose to collect or at what stage.

Would be interesting to know what system they are using.

[Slotster!]

I used to think that maybe a RNG was still used, though not in the true sense. Depending on the random number received the machine would then play a sequence of non-random events. But then again this can't be the case because there is no telling what prize the player will choose to collect or at what stage.

Would be interesting to know what system they are using.

It's weird, isn't it... Obviously a single machine in a pub/club/arcade/chippy whatever can simply count the amount coming in - and distribute it back out again so it meets the predetermined payout.

The more I think about it, the more I reckon it's managed at Microgaming... I.e - X slot has taken Y amount across all players = Z payback across the board?

Oh, I dunno... I'll stick to playing them.