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    Thumbs down Who is this muppet?

    www.topboss.co.uk/RTG_Casinos.htm

    Haunted Casino theme?

    They must have every corrupt/rogue RTG Casino ever squeezed out through the sphincter of Satan!

    and not an accredited one in sight

    You will certainly feel haunted for a long time if you use this site for your gaming needs.

    ps
    sorry they have Geisha lounge and king solomons listed which I think are in the accredited list somehow.
    Did you know though that king solomons now have a hidden disclaimer for their sign up bonus?

    PLEASE NOTE: Players from Ireland, Scotland and United Kingdom will unfortunately no longer be able to claim the Welcome offers until further notice

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    Wow - that really is a rogues gallery!

    You can read all about this outfit here: http://www.topbossgroup.com/about_us.htm

    And according to the following (see bold para) its part of a network from South Africa:

    Get Ready for the Big Gambling Affiliate Takeover

    By Kate Kaye, The ClickZ Network, Oct 13, 2006

    Affiliate marketing drives the online gambling space. Now that the industry is dealing with recent legislation outlawing U.S. Web gambling transactions, some gambling affiliates are searching for new markets to sink their teeth into. As a result, some say mainstream affiliate marketers are in for a rude awakening.

    "I am extremely worried about this ban that Congress will put on online gaming," wrote an affiliate webmaster in a post to the Gambling Portal Webmasters Association forum earlier this month. "We now have to turn our attention to the European market but one can only do so little marketing in Europe!" continued the concerned affiliate under the Net nom de plume Tropics.

    "A lot of affiliates are going to bail," said Marc Lesnick, operator of the Casino Affiliate Convention conference series. "They want to create their own niche markets," he added, suggesting segments such as men's dress shirts.

    Online gambling affiliates are accustomed to unrelenting SEO competition in the high-stakes game of driving traffic to online poker and casino sites. They are so skilled at what they do, believes Lesnick, "There's going to be a day of reckoning on the retail market; there will be a huge domino effect in affiliate marketing."

    Greg Boser, search engine marketing consultant at WebGuerrilla, may not employ such biblical terminology, but he, too, thinks an influx of gambling talent into more mainstream markets could pose a threat. "They know where the [search engine] algorithmic holes are you can drive a truck through," he said. "In these other markets it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel."

    An invasion of gambling affiliates could drown out affiliates in other markets because of shear volume, according to Heather Gartland, director of online gambling affiliate operation Topboss Limited. "It is going to have an adverse effect on the other affiliates already in the other markets as they will be too swamped," she told ClickZ News. "As my company is based in South Africa I can still fall back on the South African Online Casinos, but the USA accounts for roughly 40 [percent] of our income. We are looking at the European and British markets now, as we have no choice."

    It won't be so easy for affiliates like Gartland to simply start partnering with new gambling sites, however. Because many programs are based on a revenue share model rather than the cost-per-action models behind other affiliate programs, affiliates rely on the pool of players they've built up over time. They receive a portion of the revenue generated by the individual players who originally arrived on partner gambling sites through their affiliate sites. So, even if they have successful sites, said WebGuerrilla's Boser, "No matter where they go, they're starting over from scratch even though they have traffic."

    Shawn Collins, co-founder of the Affiliate Summit conference series expects some gambling affiliates "to go for markets similar in scope to what they're doing," he said. That might mean entering financial markets like the insurance or mortgage affiliate industries. Affiliates in more mainstream markets, said Collins, are concerned about a gambling affiliate onslaught "because the gambling affiliates have been known to be very innovative and aggressive," he said.

    More affiliates will make maneuvering affiliate marketing "a lot harder," said Mark Welch. The affiliate marketing program manager and Internet marketing consultant doesn't think too highly of the so-called affiliate "black hats" of the wagering world who use pop-ups and adware, or employ underhanded tactics to steal players away from other gambling affiliates.

    "I'm not really afraid of anybody coming in and competing fairly," Welch said.

    If less-than-scrupulous affiliates do flood mainstream markets, affiliate program managers may have to raise alert levels. While in more mainstream markets rule enforcement is often based on the honor system, Welch said in the gambling space, "they tend to be very quick to shut off someone" using inappropriate techniques, because it’s a frequent problem. "In the 'legitimate' space, the policing for that tends to be slower," he said.

    Flouting the rules of mainstream programs may be a piece of cake for gambling affiliates, but not getting the hefty paychecks they're used to could be too much to handle. Indeed, the top dogs will find ways to survive and stay in the gambling market, because, according to Casino Affiliate Convention's Lesnick, "They're not happy with the levels of the revenues" delivered by other affiliate programs.

    "Some retail programs, they want affiliates to be like a little Amway guy," he said. "The casino affiliate isn't a 50 bucks a month guy, he's a 10,000 bucks a month guy."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    www.topboss.co.uk/RTG_Casinos.htm

    Haunted Casino theme?

    They must have every corrupt/rogue RTG Casino ever squeezed out through the sphincter of Satan!

    and not an accredited one in sight

    You will certainly feel haunted for a long time if you use this site for your gaming needs.

    ps
    sorry they have Geisha lounge and king solomons listed which I think are in the accredited list somehow.
    Did you know though that king solomons now have a hidden disclaimer for their sign up bonus?

    PLEASE NOTE: Players from Ireland, Scotland and United Kingdom will unfortunately no longer be able to claim the Welcome offers until further notice
    Now which is worse, their RTGs or Playtechs. If new players had played any of these first, they would refrain from playing the MGs later although the list seems OK to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetset View Post
    Get Ready for the Big Gambling Affiliate Takeover

    By Kate Kaye, The ClickZ Network, Oct 13, 2006

    Shawn Collins, co-founder of the Affiliate Summit conference series expects some gambling affiliates "to go for markets similar in scope to what they're doing," he said. That might mean entering financial markets like the insurance or mortgage affiliate industries. Affiliates in more mainstream markets, said Collins, are concerned about a gambling affiliate onslaught "because the gambling affiliates have been known to be very innovative and aggressive," he said.
    That would have been like hitting both zeros on the roulette table with one spin at least in the States!

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    Makes me wonder why some of the more responsible affiliates, many of whom dwell on this site, do not get together and form their own organization with their own code of conduct and seal of approval.

    Sites like the above must do tremendous unfair damage to your credibility.

    The worse thing about this place is that I somehow came across it by searching best UK RTG casinos

    Perhaps there should be an affiliates rogue gallery

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetset View Post
    "Some retail programs, they want affiliates to be like a little Amway guy," he said. "The casino affiliate isn't a 50 bucks a month guy, he's a 10,000 bucks a month guy."
    Blimey - I wish! I'm definitely MUCH closer to the former than the latter!


    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    Makes me wonder why some of the more responsible affiliates, many of whom dwell on this site, do not get together and form their own organization with their own code of conduct and seal of approval.

    Sites like the above must do tremendous unfair damage to your credibility.
    Very good point and a great idea.
    Being relatively new to the affy scene I don't know if this already exists or has been tried, but the big problem would be the same as it is with the rogue casinos themselves - just how could you do anything to stop them?

    Also unsuspecting newbies have no idea which casinos or affy sites are good or bad or what any seals may mean - I myself 'swam around in ignorance' for over 3 years before discovering CasinoMeister, and I signed up to some well dodgy places I can tell you!
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    Smart affiliates have been moving into non-gambling related areas for over a year now. Some of the non-gambling affiliate sectors are already starting to feel the heat of real competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty
    Makes me wonder why some of the more responsible affiliates, many of whom dwell on this site, do not get together and form their own organization with their own code of conduct and seal of approval.
    Ever heard the expression... "Trying to herd a group of cats"?

    One of the main reasons people become affiliates in the first place is to be on their own without any type of boss or anyone else telling them what to do... In other words most of the good affiliates are not "Joiners" or "followers".

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    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Smart affiliates have been moving into non-gambling related areas for over a year now. Some of the non-gambling affiliate sectors are already starting to feel the heat of real competition.
    Yeah,like porn and what else????...Certaintly, the mortgage industry would have been poor timing for those in the states....just curious as you prolly would know I assume from trade industry media?....other than porn which may comprise a very small amount of the move into other sectors, I have no clue of what industries comprise the actual diversification movement over the past year!
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    My friend, the WWW is far more than p0rn, gambling and real estate.

    Anything that can be bought or sold, is bought and sold on the WWW. Your only limit is your own imagination and drive.

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    I left a keyword out....a la a primary industries .....no biggie so do not worry about , I was just seeking knowledge and I did not proof my post as the doorbell was ringing.....and it was was not the post (pun intended) man!

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