Oh my GOD! God d#mn cheaters!

[kimss]

Oh I so want to believe you small rollers that the world is perfect, and that the casinoes doesnt cheat! But they surely do! I just had the silliest round of blackjact in 3Dice - it's so obvious. Why do the cards change behavior on different wagers? I really want to know! (that is an obvious quiestion).

The obvious observation is clear, the cards will try to give you as many wins as possible on low wagers so it can such you dry on higher wagers. And by the way, you can see this behaviour also playing with tournament!

So, lets see how fast a 1000 euroes goes when wagering constantly 25 and 50 euroes, I had a feeling I was going for a nice win streak since the 50% was absolutely in my favour from dangeling some time with 1-5 and 10 wagers.

So lets start with 25 wagering:
0 = loose, if (21) it means dealer has 21, (B) means blackjack
1 = win, if (21) means I got 21, (B) means blackjack
B = I bust
- = Even
0+ = I double and loose
1+ = I double and win

0(21)
0
0(21)
0
-
-
0(21)
1
-
0(21)
0
B
0(21)
1
1
1(B)
0(B)
1
0+
B
1+
0
B
0(21)
B
1(B)
-
B
1
B
B
0(21)
0
0
B
0
1
-
1
B
B
-
0(B)
1
1
1
-
0
0(21)
-
-
1+
0(21)
0(21)
0
0
1
1
0
0
0
B
B
1
B
B
0(21)
B
B
B
B
-
0
0(B)
0
B
0(21)
0(21)
1
1
B
0(21)

The last cards was a 100 euro bet and I was out...

I so want to belive you people who say the casino doesnt alter the algorythm and so, but doing tournaments for a week now observing the same behavior, and getting this is my face with real money - sorry I just cant convince myself any longer I'm the insane man and your are the sane ones.

Also, my earlier MG excersice with 250.000+ spins (which I do have playcheck data from!!!) where I more or less force the bonus on Glory of Rome again and again, so we meet the wonderful 95% payout also speaks for it self.

I hope some of you statistcs people out there would want to look into the playcheck data of mine - so you can tell me that I'm wrong - so you can tell me why loosing on one game makes me win again and again on Glory of Rome... You need to to this - because to me it stinks to high heaven! And every time I want to believe you things are all jokkidi dokkidy, and a big win shouldnt mean the casino freezes - heydiho I kick myself in the balls!

So for you out there that have a feeling something is going on, take my advice, and I'm a software developer so I not stupid! I am an gambling addict, sure, but not stupid! 5+ years and $100.000 in losses, a few 1000 hours watching, making notes, you see some things!

Hey, even some of you hardballers in here are starting to say "well I must say I have noticed when the scatters appear so and so..." Bollocks, if it's random that shouldt happend! It's my firm belief, or my theory at the moment, the system supresses larger wins if your payout is high, and it will gracefully help you from time to time if the payout is low.

Wagering $10.000 during a year on high variance slots should not give you 95% payout! Some should have high, and some should have to crawl out with 40% if they didn't hit anything. But that doesnt happen... I wonder why we only get one account in each casino... Could it be to have totally controll over your stats? I would think so!

God damn!

[SlotsWizard]

Originally Posted by kimss

I wonder why we only get one account in each casino... Could it be to have totally controll over your stats? I would think so!

People are only allowed one account to prevent them from receiving the sign-up bonus more than once.

If you are really that paranoid that online casinos are out to get you, you probably shouldn't be gambling online. However, I can assure you that the same treatment awaits you in a B&M casino if you have ever played their slots.

[kimss]

In farness for 3Dice, let me follow up with some more info, since the kind people there gave me a little bonus to wiggle with.
B (50 euro)
B (50 euro)
1 (30 euro)
1 (60 euro)
1 (30 euro)
1 (30 euro)
1 ( 5 euro)
B ( 1 euro)
0 (10 euro)
0 (30 euro)
1 (30 euro)
1 (40 euro, blackjack)
1 (30 euro)
B ( 5 euro)
B (10 euro)
1+(20 euro)
0 ( 5 euro, 21)
1 ( 5 euro)
B (15 euro)
0 (15 euro, my fault, pressed double on 20... shize)
1 (15 euro)
1 (30 euro, blackjack)
0 (30 euro)
1 (30 euro)
1 (60 euro)
1 (60 euro)
B (30 euro)
1 (30 euro)
0 (30 euro)
- (40 euro)
1 (50 euro)
0 (50 euro, blackjack)
1 (50 euro)
1 (50 euro)
1 (50 euro)
1 (10 euro, blackjack)

Was it just a dry spell? Even if I win back my original deposit the result is still i ended up depositing alot today. The results did turn it seems, statistically they would have to aswell. By argument with MG still stands 100% however.

[kimss]

Originally Posted by SlotsWizard

However, I can assure you that the same treatment awaits you in a B&M casino if you have ever played their slots.

Believe me I know, however - we dont see it there! They, most likely, cheat aswell. But we do not get the pleasure of pulling out playcheck data and having 100% controll over the slot and see every spin, we do online!

Also, you do remember the thread with the guy who won alot and sat on the phone with his girlfriend wagering at thunderstruck at same wager and same casino, however the girlfriend won all the time but he was sucked dry?

There are a few examples which have been mention in this forum that is far from random, they simply cannot be! One thing is sure, it is not that hard making $50 become $250, making $500 becoming $2500 is another story! Even when you x5 the wagering. Unless my ~ $50.000 the last year trying both are extremely unlucky that is, I know. Why I gamble? I'm an addict, I have never tried to hide that fact. Am I greedy? Sure! It doesnt mean I'm blind, it doesn't mean I'm not good for the money! I'm greedy, and an addict. Reality bites!

Merry christmas by the way,

[gobucs]

You're right! They're cheating! I've been playing Blackjack for over two years now and have lost over $150,000! I guess I'm an addict too. The thing is, I've played numerous big name casinos, PartyPoker (when legal in the US), Bodog, LasVegas USA, and several others. It's all the same, no matter the software. If I bet small, let's ay $1 a hand, I win my fair share, sometimes even more than the dealer. But if increase the wager and keep it increased, the house enjoys a 30+% win/loss advantage. I've never seen so many suck-out 21's, and bad beats on doubles and splits. I can win 4 hands in arow for $1 and bet $10 and lose. I can lose 4 hands in a row for $1 bet $10 and lose, and keep betting 10 and keep losing. Only it's not $10 it's $50-$100. I can spend weeks building up my bankroll, and they will steal it in minutes by winning rediculous numbers of hands in a row. How many times have you seen the house win 8 hands in a row (just an example, they win more than that a lot) you win 1 and the house wins the next 1,2,3 in a row. There are hudreds of these patterns. I've posted threads on here before about exactly this, but nobody seems to get it. I wonder how many people in this forum actually work for the casinos themselves.
I've found the only thing that works is to consistently bet low and sneak in a larger bet every once in awhile. This is very frustrating too because when you're betting low your winning (go figure). But you have to be very patient with this method. And look at the patterns. They are there. They shouldn't be in this so-called random world, but they're there. I've actually had some pretty good cashes this way. Otherwise I'd be down $300,000.
Thanks for your post. I'm glad to know that I'm not completely insane, or at least alone in my insanity.
gobucs

[kimss]

Originally Posted by gobucs

I've found the only thing that works is to consistently bet low and sneak in a larger bet every once in awhile. This is very frustrating too because when you're betting low your winning (go figure). But you have to be very patient with this method.

This is just what I noticed aswell, very clearly, the last week as I had a "comback" in online Blackjack. This "tecnique" does work and you can sneak your bankroll a few x100 upwards. But once you start switching bets in the x5+ range, the cards gets really confused and starts throwing blackjacks and ties all over the place. Oh my that is so random, especially since it happends consistantly.

I smile when you mention the 8 loose in a row, seems todays blackjack never let me loose more than 7 times in a row, followed by 1 win and 2+ looses again and tie. Then, depending on wagering, what happends next. I do however would like to see 7 wins in a row in a few short in between series, no, didn't see that.

Also, loose a few big hands, go lowest and enjoy a lucky streak! Loose many low hands and you do not automatically enjoy winning high hands.

I belive the trick is to look at the blackjack as true, but weighted, it does look like blackjack on the outside.

Whatever the results are, I must say comparing 3Dice blackjack with MG blackjack I still love 3Dice much more! MG is just ultraconfusing with all those 20/21 on the dealer again and again and again and again... broke!

[gobucs]

Do you know if 3dice allows US players?

[kimss]

I would think they do, they are from the Netherlands. They are kind with their high-rollers, that I can say! And did I get a lucky streak now in BJ, I'm back to square one. Whatever the results, I still favour their blackjack the best online one. So if your still wagering anyways, check that one out. Do some 100 hands on $1-$10 to get the feel before getting naked and diving into your vault,

[kimss]

By the way, http://www.3dice.com/ is their website. A unique casino aswell, the only one with that software. Lovely graphics.

[SlotsWizard]

Originally Posted by kimss

I get a lucky streak now in BJ, I'm back to square one. Whatever the results, I still favour their blackjack the best online one.

Oh good, so they're not rigged after all. Whew!

Merry Christmas to you too.