Pharaohs Casino - new software, stupid terms

[Nifty29]

Hey Gang

Pharaohs casino have changed software from BossMedia to MG......and their signup bonus terms are just plain stupid.

Keep in mind that the EzBonus system is used.

1. Any new player claiming the 100% Welcome Bonus (maximum bonus amount as advertised on the homepage) effectively accepts these terms and conditions.
To be eligible to receive the welcome bonus a player must have NOT received a Welcome Bonus from and casino operated by Naden which are on the following list:
Click here.
Players may not make a cash-in of any kind prior to receiving their Welcome Bonus. If a player performs a cash-in, then the Welcome Bonus is void.
Players need to wager the Welcome Bonus that they qualify for once through to be eligible.
Withdrawal requests before the wagering requirements of the Welcome Bonus have been met will be rejected until such time as the wagering requirements have been satisfied.
Players must stake at least 40 times the value of their Welcome Bonus prior to cashing in.
Players must also make a minimum of 250 bets before withdrawal request is accepted.
Players of Russian, Danish, Israeli and British origin are welcome at our casino. We regret however that due to promotional abuse by a large number of players originating from Russia, Denmark, Israel and the UK the wagering requirement is at least 50 times the value of their Welcome Bonus prior to cashing in.
The wagering contribution percentages for the 40x play-through requirement is different based on the game type played as follows:
Slots and Parlor Games - 100%
Table Poker, Roulette - 25%
Video Poker, Casino War - 5%
All versions of Blackjack, Power Poker, Craps, Baccarat, Sicbo, Progressive Slots and Games, Red Dog, Paigow Poker, All Aces and Jacks or Better Video Poker - 0%
Bets made in the gamble game feature in all slot games do not count towards the Welcome Bonus System play-through.
Players may win real cash account credits with Welcome Bonus credits; however, Welcome Bonus credits must be played through in accordance with the Welcome Bonus System wagering requirements before cashing-in.
Our Welcome Bonus offer is available only to first time Real purchasing players who register at the Casino.
The Casino will be the sole judge of the 100% Welcome Bonus. We reserve the right, exercisable in its sole discretion to discontinue or cancel or change this offer at any time for any reason whatsoever without notice.
Players must make a qualified purchase and wager it one time on any game within 72 hours of opening their real account to be eligible for the 100% Welcome Bonus.

** So , even though your bonus may in fact be cleared into your cash account (after wagering 30x pre the ezbonus system), you will still have to wager it another 10x and go into playcheck etc etc to make sure you have met it etc etc.

It just doesnt make sense!

[Nifty29]

Just had an interesting chat with their support, given I was sent an email stating there was a no-deposit bonus in my account.......looks like the EzBonus system may be changing.

Please wait for a site operator to respond.
Welcome to Casino support live help, one moment please for world-class service
Jason: Hi there and thank you for using our Live Chat facility! Allow me to introduce myself

as your chat representative...
Jason: will be assisting you today.
Jason: How can we provide you with world-class service?
Me: Hi Jason. I was sent an email stating my account has been migrated, and a non-deposit

bonus would be in my account, however nothing has appeared
Jason: I am looking into this Timothy, this Promotional bonus is only for VIp's

unfortunately, and I am awaiting the list for our VIp's so that I can see if they have been

credited.
Me: OK.
Me: Do you know why this was stated in the email?
Jason: It was just a default mailer that was sent to all the players. I am sorry for the

misunderstanding.
Me: OK. Its not a good start - someone should have proof-read the emails I think.
Me: Lets hope things are smoother from this point
Jason: I agree with you, and this is very isolated, I do apologize once again for this.
Me: Its OK. You may also want to feedback that the signup bonus should be 30xBonus as per

your EzBonus system, so that when it has all transferred to the cash account it can be

withdrawn - it might save a lot of problems.
Jason: Unfortuntely with the Migration, the signup bonus requirement has gone to 40x, as per

our bonus system.
Me: OK - so the bonus wont transfer until the wagering has reached 40x? Every other MG

casino transfers after 30x, released in $10 increments.
Jason: We have changed all our MG requirements to 40x though, as I am sure that the rest of

the MG Casinos have or will be doing within the next months.
Me: Oh OK - thanks Jason that is interesting information. Enjoy your day!
Jason: Thank you for being so understanding.
Jason: Is there anything further I can assist you with?
Me: My pleasure.
Me: No thanks - bye!

[GrandMaster]

Btw, it is called Pharaoh's Casino, URL www.pharaohscasino.com. pharoahscasino.com is a typosquatting site.

[Zoozie]

It is sad more MG casinos are bending the EZ bonuses just adding more fuel to the already raging bonus confusion going on. The whole bonus system with the 10$ bonus conversion rate does not make sense. The bonus and cash balance should be merged and instead a single wagering bar (like Crypto) should be added.

[chuchu59]

Does this also mean that once the welcome bonus is credited to the bonus account no withdrawals can be made until the bonuses are fully released into the main account?

[liquuid_fusion]

Some of you may recall I won a big jackpot at Pharaohs a couple of months ago.

The new MG terms here are 50*B for UK players, or 1000*B if I want to play VP (my favourite casino game). I definately won't be playing here anymore!!

[vinylweatherman]

They are DELIBERATELY adding confusion where they HAVE THE NECESSARY SOFTWARE OPTIONS.

EZBonus is operator configurable, and they clearly know this as they have altered the defaults for non-slot games. Casino Action tried out a 50x WR, and altered the EZBonus conversion rate to match. Pharaohs can do this, but seem to like the idea of "screwing" hapless players who make 30x and see everything as withdrawable, but forget that an extra 10x or 20x is needed.

WTF is all this about British players being a bunch of "abusers"

What an effing insult - WE are the country who has supported the industry the most, providing an environment for operating companies to float on a major stock exchange, introducing regulation as an example to those countries that would rather introduce prohibition, and UK players have one of the easiest methods of depositing and withdrawing.

What HAS arisen in the UK is FRAUD, due to loopholes in the identity systems (soon to be plugged), this has NOTHING to do with "promotional abuse", it is players borrowing identities and opening multiple accounts, and it is irrelevant whether they have to wager 40x or 50x - they still won't get paid when caught.

The reference to "Naden" in the terms indicates this is a Playshare "White Label" casino, and it may be that anyone who has taken the SUB at Grand Mondial or Playshare will not be eligible (even if not on the list).

We still have not been told what this "Naden" entity is, but since they use it, we should be; even though Playshare run the support.


Since we Brits abuse all their promotions, here is how we MIGHT do it


1) Place entire bankroll on even money bet.

2) if win, complete WR at 0.09 per spin on Tally Ho (96%), or could use Sonic Boom at 0.05 x 2 coins (swap between the two if one looks cold).

(2) will take care of the 250 bets required, and spins can be tallied by the stats counter (under "%" to the left of the coin size in the game) to ensure not to get screwed by the 40x and 50x sneaky WR while EZBonus runs at 30x


They could STILL void winnings with the "FU Clause", so the need to boost the WR is AGAIN irrelevant and unnecessary, but will lead to more justification for players to get paid using the above.

PS - the above works for ALL nationalities, not just Danes, Russians, Israelis and Brits as the casino would have you believe

[chuchu59]

Thanks for all the info VMW. Now we have a classic case of 'bonus abuse' from the casinos and not the players.

[Zoozie]

1) Place entire bankroll on even money bet.

I suggest taking higher than even bet, like #25-36 at roulette etc which pays 3 times money back. If you have the guts and can handle the
variance, go for a more rare event. I only have the guts for this 33% even. Missing 10 times in a row is not fun

This is better total EV and I have seen T&C stating 'doubling' (or something like that) balance on first bet. which you are not.

[Nifty29]

Thanks for the all the replies peeps

I like Zoozie's idea of the bar gauge showing the % of WR met......but then again I guess that probably makes sense and simplifies things, so MG are unlikely to introduce it

The CSR I chatted to was implying that their EzBonus system actually works on 40x not 30x, so $10 would be released every $400 in wagers. I didnt know they could actually do that??

Oh Yeah - when you download and install the casino, the icon says 'Pharoahs Casinos', which clearly isnt the correct name as pointed out by Grandmaster. You would think someone would have double-checked those kinds of things.