Grand Prive stupid marketing ??

**wayram** · 5th September 2007, 10:25 AM

As a Grand Prive V I P for a couple of years and enjoyong weekly bonuses on deposits and also having many cash ins they decided to drop me as a VIP and also from their mailing list, so no more offers..(I also made a point to deposit at least one out of three times without a bonus so they could not say i was abusing the system), Reason..You have cashed out more than what you have deposited,, well ,, well...All they want you to do is deposit and LOSE , you are not supposed to win...I said why cut someone and not offer any bonus at all because they will play somewhere else, they could not have cared less. So what they have done is totally lost me forever and now i play elsewhere...So i think their marketing is pretty ordinary ,you would think that if they continued to offer deals, the player would take them up and the casino would hope that you lose. This way they lose both ways no play and no deposits. You would think they would encourage players to their casino, not turn them away,

**chuchu59** · 5th September 2007, 10:35 AM

Sheer stupidity! I recall a saying from Stanley HO, the boss of many of the casinos in macau. He said that he doesnt mind if you are clever or ignorant ie whether you have won or lost at his casinos. His only worry would be that you wont return. So it doesnt really matter whether you have won in the past as long as you return to hand over your dough. Actually, winners are far more likely to return because they are financially better off after winning and they think they have luck at the casinos in question. The casinos will always win in the long run because of the house edge. How short-sighted of them.

**Mousey** · 5th September 2007, 12:02 PM

GP's Bonus to deposit to cash out ratio policy has lost them many, many players during the last couple of years. And they care not one fig. Never have.

**GGW Laurie** · 5th September 2007, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mousey

GP's Bonus to deposit to cash out ratio policy has lost them many, many players during the last couple of years. And they care not one fig. Never have.

one of the top 5 casinos imo that will never see another red cent from me!!

**vinylweatherman** · 5th September 2007, 04:49 PM

They hate LOSERS too

I was down over 3K over three months & they didn't seem to want me to return either.

Given the extremely poor payouts recently, there is NO WAY I am playing without some kind of bonus or promotion any longer.

Yet again today, my play (even with bonuses), has seen incredibly low returns.

88 spins on Chiefs Fortune with NOT ONE ARROW towards the feature,
nearly 100 spins on Ladies Nite and not even TWO scatters, let alone three.
177 on Thunderstruck followed by around half that on High Limit version - no bonus round.
Munchkins (where bonus rounds are more likely), 200 spins over two casinos and NO BONUS ROUND.

I am playing MUCH LESS now (operators take note) because of this severe downturn. I have gone from "feeling unlucky", to "feeling I don't stand a &$�* chance whatsoever"

Grand Prive have recently sent me offers for a two month wager challenge event - not this time, I still remember getting conned in the last one.

Funny really, I would have thought the loss of depositing players would have no effect on the games themselves, given that they are random

32Red have a big notice up today, there is an upgrade of some GAMES and FEATURES. No doubt this is for all MG casinos, but only 32Red feel we need to be informed. Existing games should not need an "upgrade" unless something is being changed, then it might be helpful to know WHAT is being changed, lest we think the worst.

**sublime9** · 6th September 2007, 05:42 AM

they also will occasionaly lock your account and you have to "telephonically verify details". Despite being a losing player at grandprive, they also removed me from the mailing list. Lame!

**KasinoKing** · 6th September 2007, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

Yet again today, my play (even with bonuses), has seen incredibly low returns.

88 spins on Chiefs Fortune with NOT ONE ARROW towards the feature,
nearly 100 spins on Ladies Nite and not even TWO scatters, let alone three.
177 on Thunderstruck followed by around half that on High Limit version - no bonus round.
Munchkins (where bonus rounds are more likely), 200 spins over two casinos and NO BONUS ROUND.

Are you are saying you think individual MG casinos have the power to adjust the returns on their slots?

This would be very worrying if true and against the previously widely held belief that all MG's games at ALL their casinos run to the exact same %'s.

**silkprint** · 6th September 2007, 02:27 PM

They have been doing that to their most loyal depositers for a couple of years now . Doesn't make sense but they still do it .

**footdr** · 6th September 2007, 02:45 PM

Your playing the wrong games!. I have been cashing out at roadhouse reels, lake palace and grandbay consistantly.

Try you lucky barstard,(takes awhile but payout worth it) also pharohs tomb, lucky star, lucky charmer and break the bank, all been paying well.

p.s. also, madhatters on flash

**vinylweatherman** · 6th September 2007, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by footdr

Your playing the wrong games!. I have been cashing out at roadhouse reels, lake palace and grandbay consistantly.

Try you lucky barstard,(takes awhile but payout worth it) also pharohs tomb, lucky star, lucky charmer and break the bank, all been paying well.

p.s. also, madhatters on flash

Yes, but lately there have been NO "right games" to play. I tried again today, and again dead as *&^%. Not Grand Privvy, but JF and 32Red (who at least ease the pain with bonuses).

Casino Rewards just offered me yet ANOTHER GBP1000 bonus (25%), but they can eff off as I don't really trust them with all the stunts they have pulled recently.