closed my account at 32red today

[hobobiker]

im not depositing any more at 32 or indeed at any MG casino .........the payout % over the last 2 months has dropped ....dramatically ... i know when its bad luck and when its a % change in the game ...
and before ...i get blah blah ...millions of spins to get a true idea ....i have wagered over £410,000 at MG casinos in the last 12 months (bout 150,000 at 32red) and thats mainly on about 3 slots, thats a lot of spins at about 50p to £2.00 a spin...... and ive had some very decent wins ....in the past ...but the last month or so ive been struggling to even get to double my deposit in most sessions ......bad luck??? ...maybe for a week or so ...but not for 2 months , ive been gambling for long enough to know when a slot aint right ....and mg slots aint right at the moment ........returns of 60% on over 1000 spins ....bonus rounds that dont pay anything ....
been gambling for 25 years ...and i have not come across payouts like that before ....either land based or online .
and then to be told "well its to do with the wager .....or the number of spins .....or in the long term the you should get 95% if you do a million and one plays....blah blah blah ........its just bullshit.

i dont gamble based on a yearly , million play cycle, i gamble when i got cash to burn and wanna have some fun, and i want to win ....a lot ... i dont want to be told that i have to look at it in the long term ........hey bet a £100, 000 over the year and you might get a 95% return ???????
i dont see why my previous or future wagers or returns should have any bearing on my present ....or very recent wagers.and returns... they would be irrelevent at a land based casino.

so bollocks to what my returns were on the 400 odd K thats gone before ....the fact is that i aint playing somewhere that thinks it can give as low as 50% returns on slots....and then say " yeah but thats ok cos 8 months ago you had a big win ...... and your 5 yearly percentage payout report says ...blah blah.." its an outrage and its takin the piss.

[happygobrokey]

you're frickin jokes, buddy!

if i recall, last time you showed up here was to bitch about 32red as well. my advice, you can't lose if you don't play, and if you think some one or entity is a swindler, stop giving them your money willingly. and don't come here to complain, when you know we all think otherwise and will show you no love. what exactly is it you want us to do? surely there's no discussion to be had on this matter, because you won't accept what we are going to tell you about the proven facts of gambling, and no one seems to share in your sentiments.

[chuchu59]

It's just as well that you have quit 32 RED as you have had so many unpleasant experiences with them. Maybe you can try Crystal Palace or the like. With the NICE Rtg slots and the impeccable customer service there, you get the best of both worlds. Please come back and tell us your payout rate then.

[bpb]

i know when its bad luck and when its a % change in the game ...

No, you don't

Do yourself a favor and don't gamble anymore ... Ever

[Zoozie]

and before ...i get blah blah ...millions of spins to get a true idea ....i have wagered over £410,000 at MG casinos in the last 12 months

Wagering £410K on slots is really asking to get ripped.
If you lost less than £25K you have actually been lucky! That is the way slots work. If you had played JoB VP it would be less than a £2K loss in average.

Slots are probably the most expensive hobby you can get, even if you low roll at £0.20/spin. The Winning screenshot thread give people false hopes and you will see the majority of the wins are not much more than 100*bet size, and this win you can give back in just 10 minutes play.

Whenever I see a 100*bet-win at slots in the winning screenshots thread at bet 1$/1£ or more, I know the player is a major overall loser, or very soon to be one. And even at this bet-size it must have a major impact on their financial situation.

As long as slots-payout are less than 98% I refuse to play them without a bonus. They are fun, but not worth the cost for me. And from all your crying it seems you finally have decided that it was also not worth the cost for you.

Zoozie

[Christoff]

32Red are a fantastic organisation and have always treated my fairly - my biggest wins have come there.

Maybe you have just been unlucky

I have heard the margins are getting lower on Microgaming but that is only a rumour.

Try the Accredited List for some other reputable casinos

[Simmo!]

I agree 32Red are among the better operations. I also feel that MG is fair software, even though the variance can be high. I've had 2 or 3 bad months on the trot before now, but to me, that's gambling. But I also agree that any player who recognises that they are a) losing regularly (or more than they want to lose) and b) not getting any fun from a casino should close their accounts and quit.

If hobobiker feels that MG is not giving him the experience he wants from gambling, then he is right to quit and walk away. Many players play for entertainment, and if it ceases to be entertaining, then it takes some resolve to walk away and should be applauded IMO.

[Webzcas]

I've had 2 or 3 bad months on the trot before now, but to me, that's gambling..

As have I guess the vast majority of posters here. Sometimes it makes sense to play a few different casinos. Also what you have to remember is, only spend what you can afford to lose.

[Slotster!]

32RED, Spin Palace and Roxy Palace are the only three MG operations you'll ever need. Regular stories of wins as well as losses just doesn't stack up with the "secret percentage altering" conspiracy theories...

I've had an unprecedented NIGHTMARE return on slots this year, at almost every MG casino I've played at... Funnily enough, I've rarely left Las Vegas "UP" either; it's thanks to my behaviour as opposed to the games I'm playing. How many times does the variance/percentages of slots need to be discussed on this forum before bad losers get the message? Jeeeez....

You're struggling coming to terms with bad luck on slots, you should definitely quit full stop.

[ergopro]

I closed my 32red account as well...and Dash and BetDirect.
Plus all others I could come up with.
Will stick to poker- seems to be a better option...can't stand the swings at casinos. Just my 2 cents.